Salt shotshell

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Hi,

is someone tried to reload shotshell with salt? I did it with 12ga and the result is like trowing an handfull of salt.

I know :weird:

thanks,
 
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot33.htm

A small excerpt from the end of the article... Emphasis is mine.
Lessons learned:
1. At 20 yards, you might scare a dog or some other animal, but you sure wouldn't break the skin.

2. At 10 yards, you might break the skin with a couple of grains, but nothing very serious.

3. At 12 feet, you might get the desired effect, if the desired effect is to "burn" the target with the rock salt.

4. At 4 feet, you might cause a wound requiring a visit to a hospital for a human, or maybe death to a small animal.

5. Movie plots that show someone "burning" a bad guy at across-the-yard distances are hogwash.

6. Rock salt makes a pitiful personal defense load, as if we didn't already know that.

Got home and broke out the Tampax and soapy water, and got to work cleaning the barrel of the shotgun. I'm not going to take the chance of leaving salt deposits in the barrel.

I then ran very hot water through the barrel and dried it completely. Then cleaned and oiled it as normal.

I then returned the plated 00 Buckshot to the magazine. If I ever have to "burn" a bad guy, he's not going to have any doubts or complaints about lack of penetration.

Shooting stuff is fun, even if it is something as silly as rock salt loads in a shotgun.smilie
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I love the USA ;)
 
Years ago we loaded up a few rounds of rock salt. Didn't work worth a damn. What came out of the barrel was closer to table salt than "rock" salt. The intent was to use the loads on stray dogs that came around. Never did use them on anything except a couple of cardboard boxes.

Could also have been because we shot it out of a full choke barrel which would have crushed up the salt. (beat up old single shot CIL or something)
 
chise said:
Dimes don't work either
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Thats too bad. I've been thinking about that movie (can't remember the name) where the bad guy loaded up dimes in a cutoff SxS and let fly. I was seriously considering trying it on a defenseless chunk of firewood. Do you know why it doesn't work (aside from costing 1.50$ a round just for the projectiles)?
 
I did know a fellow who claimed to have killed a dog with rock salt. He had loaded a 20 guage shell with salt and kept the shell sitting on the door molding in his trailer over the winter. Think dampness and propane heat. Come spring the offending dog returned to start crapping in his rose garden and low and behold the salt had apparently fused with the dampness. Don't know the range but the result was unintended.
In terms of using coins, Baker ran out of balls for his 6 guage muzzle loader and used all of the coins in his pocket at the time to stun a water buffalo. He was up a tree and presumably only 10 or 15 feet from the buffalo which he had already wounded. You will find that in "Rifle and Hound in Ceylon" written in the 1850's if my memory is correct.

cheers mooncoon
 
ROCK SALT, not table salt, is a non-lethal projectile. Unless, like mooncoon says, it get wet and turns into a slug. Of course, if you use it on anybody or anything, you'll be arrested.
 
Gonna try those little hard shiny cake decorating beads in my shotgun one day. They will break your teeth and are mostly sugar I think. Pop a grouse under 10yds - no lead or steel in the meat. I'll do a few tin can penetration tests first before aiming at a grouse.
 
sunray said:
ROCK SALT, not table salt, is a non-lethal projectile. Unless, like mooncoon says, it get wet and turns into a slug. Of course, if you use it on anybody or anything, you'll be arrested.
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Two things: if it gets wet enough to turn into a slug your powder would be in a similar state. Should it actually fire the shock of discharge pulverizes it again. Same with the other old wives tale about pouring a shell full of water and freezing it.
 
Whelen B said:
Gonna try those little hard shiny cake decorating beads in my shotgun one day. They will break your teeth and are mostly sugar I think. Pop a grouse under 10yds - no lead or steel in the meat. I'll do a few tin can penetration tests first before aiming at a grouse.
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Hell, while your at it, throw in some rosemary, peppercorns and some garlic. I think you may be on to something here...:)
 
The one time I tried and it penetrates wet cardboard at about 20 ft with fresh table salt with no rocks. It had about a six inch flame out the end of the barrel.
I was told the only way to confirm the penetration damage is to use ballistic gelatin but that’s a little pricey to play with.
I’m still hopeful to find a tested non lethal load, for a "Critter Ridder" harassment load but I haven’t found anything documented to date.

Driller
 
Driller said:
The one time I tried and it penetrates wet cardboard at about 20 ft with fresh table salt with no rocks. It had about a six inch flame out the end of the barrel.
I was told the only way to confirm the penetration damage is to use ballistic gelatin but that’s a little pricey to play with.
I’m still hopeful to find a tested non lethal load, for a "Critter Ridder" harassment load but I haven’t found anything documented to date.

Driller
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Tested non lethal load - paintballs
cheap and they work, as an added bonus the owner can see that they have been shot prompting them to take steps to contain their pets.
 
Rock salt is very harmful and toxic if it enters through the skin.
The wound will never heal properly until the grain(s) is removed surgically
or disolved (it may take years).
Unlike the lead, which is very toxic as well, but
the body can build a coating around a lead pellet
and that prevents some of the lead toxicity since it is somewhat contained.
 
Dr.Lector said:
Rock salt is very harmful and toxic if it enters through the skin.
The wound will never heal properly until the grain(s) is removed surgically
or disolved (it may take years).
Unlike the lead, which is very toxic as well, but
the body can build a coating around a lead pellet
and that prevents some of the lead toxicity since it is somewhat contained.
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I'm confused by your statement as Epson salts is still in used to sterilized wounds. Ionized salt (table salt) is ingested daily in food and your saying its toxic.
We rinse our mouths out with it after we have dental work to sterilize.
I do understand the difference between ionized salts and the raw mined gravel used on roads and water softeners screened and solar salts.
Can you elaborate a little more and maybe suggest a non lethal substitute that would give the desired effect, on bears, coyotes, raccoons etc...



Driller
 
"Can you elaborate a little more and maybe suggest a non lethal substitute that would give the desired effect, on bears, coyotes, raccoons etc..."

hmmm..

Bacon bits?
dry black beans?
rice?

that's all I have, but I'm hungry.. It's affecting my brain.


p.s. Have fired a few loads of dimes... Pattern was .. not great, penetration was... not great, but it was kinda fun picking up 90 degree bent dimes all over the place and the cost of a cheap target round and 16 dimes is less than I pay for premium hunting shells.
 
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