Single Stack Div?

John in B.C.

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I have read several references to a 'single stack div' for IPSC.

I understand this division is being shot in some areas and I have also read the suggestion that the revolver div might be dropped to facilitate the formal recognition of SS.

First I am curious, how does single stack work? Does the gun fit in the box? 10 round or 8's?

.45's only?

Second, any truth to the rumor of swapping revolver for a single stack division?

John
 
Single Stack looks good to me.

THis would be fun for me as it would be reasonably cheap to get into. My Spartan would work okay I think. A bunch of 8 round mags and away we go.

I don't know why they would want to drop the revolver div though. I see USPSA has both.

John
 
The discussion on IPSC's Global Village has indicated that if SS is adopted in 2012, they wouldn't drop revolver; they'd be looking at dropping modified.
(even though both divisions show meager support from participants)

It is definite that IPSC does not want to have more than 5 divisions at any given time, though. So if SS is in, somethings got to go.
 
They should drop modified. I would think a comp'd -optic gun should be in Open anyhow. I think revolver is more popular anyhow.
 
That would make sense.

Seems like the only real difference between modified and Open is how they wear their gear.

Single stack looks like a lot of fun.

Kind of a 'standard lite' div :)

John
 
ss division

they sure have to let go something

single stack in the states are HUGE these days

revolver has 29 shooter and modified 49 in world shoot 2005

2008 world shoot 33 revolver and 48 modified

so by the number of participant the revolver division should be dropped
it's just a matters of numbers

and like Maurice said ...comp gun with optic should be in open OK
but revolver should be in STANDARD division

so production division should be in standard too cause it's not an open gun
what is the difference between a 2000$ tanfoglio production gun and a STI edge......they are the same.....ok then i'm sure is because your first shoot has to be 5lbs and the rest is the same has a standard gun...what a joke

that's why JP won the Quebec provincial in both standard and production with his production gun

whatever division IPSC have ....there will always be #####ing around

try to think of it like Grappling or BJJ in competition.....it's all the same thing
but they are weight class DIVISION
IPSC division should be considered the same even if they are 10 people in that division ....and no division should be ignored.......i try to come back with my speach at the AGA in kingston 2006 about the MODIFIED division

too much drinking that night and a poor english as always...:cheers:
 
philproulx said:
... production division should be in standard too cause it's not an open gun what is the difference between a 2000$ tanfoglio production gun and a STI edge......they are the same.....ok then i'm sure is because your first shoot has to be 5lbs and the rest is the same has a standard gun...
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I don't think you will get a lot of support for rolling PD into SD.

Not everyone is shooting a Stock II.

I started with an M&P. I used a CZ85C and now I have a Shadow. In MY hands I think there is a BIG difference between my pistol and an Edge.

One thing I like about PD is everyone scores minor. To my mind this tends to put more emphasis on accuracy over speed. I like that:D

Personally I like PD just like it is :)

John
 
philproulx said:
they sure have to let go something

single stack in the states are HUGE these days

revolver has 29 shooter and modified 49 in world shoot 2005

2008 world shoot 33 revolver and 48 modified

so by the number of participant the revolver division should be dropped
it's just a matters of numbers

and like Maurice said ...comp gun with optic should be in open OK
but revolver should be in STANDARD division

so production division should be in standard too cause it's not an open gun
what is the difference between a 2000$ tanfoglio production gun and a STI edge......they are the same.....ok then i'm sure is because your first shoot has to be 5lbs and the rest is the same has a standard gun...what a joke

that's why JP won the Quebec provincial in both standard and production with his production gun

whatever division IPSC have ....there will always be #####ing around

try to think of it like Grappling or BJJ in competition.....it's all the same thing
but they are weight class DIVISION
IPSC division should be considered the same even if they are 10 people in that division ....and no division should be ignored.......i try to come back with my speach at the AGA in kingston 2006 about the MODIFIED division

too much drinking that night and a poor english as always...:cheers:
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I agree with you Phil on some points. I have to respectfully disagree with you on the point about JP. He won because he put the time in to practice. Not because of his gun. His skill exceeds who he is competing against for that match (provincials-and Nationals). Not to disrespect the shooters in Quebec or Nationals shooters. He could shoot a para and still be a great shooter ;)
 
that was my point Maurice , Division don't make the shooter



for me the division is fine as they are cause they let people choose what they like, it it can bring people to the sport even with modified division
if a guy looks at that kind of gun and he likes it that bring some kind of interest
 
I find this all a little amusing as when I shot IPSC seriously in 87-92 there were no divisions. everyone competed against everyone else. IMHO IPSC shold have stayed with no divisions just got rid of comps and optics. Look how well IDPA has done!!
Putting on fire proof suit a I type this
Andy
 
ampegor said:
I find this all a little amusing as when I shot IPSC seriously in 87-92 there were no divisions. everyone competed against everyone else. IMHO IPSC shold have stayed with no divisions just got rid of comps and optics. Look how well IDPA has done!!
Putting on fire proof suit a I type this
Andy
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If modified still has support in the world, and revolver has less (even though I have never even seen a modified gun but plenty of shooters competing with wheel guns)

Why not make a new division of limited 8, still has to fit in the box but only up-to 8 rounds allowed, so 6, 7, and 8 shot revolvers are OK too. Although this still sounds like to would still pretty much kill wheelguns.


WHAT is so unique about modified anyway? I really don't see ANY Major difference, Open should absorb Mod

would leave us with 5 Very distinct divisions:

Revolver, production, single stack(Limited 8), standard, Open.




But think it would be cool to have an open revolver division, so up to 8 rounders, comps and optics, purely for the cool factor.

Anybody?
 
Modified has a minimum caliber size of .40. I believe the idea was to create "realistic carry guns" - the idea being that nobody would want to "carry a gun" that would not fit in the box. I don't think the intent was to ever allow optics into the division, but IPSC didn't plan on innovators finding ways to make scopes fit the box.

Just like they never planned on Manufacturers making "race ready production guns".
 
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