+1 just what I've been looking for!
Any interest? Savage "Bush Carbine"
- Thread starter CanAm
- Start date
+1 just what I've been looking for!
- Location
- Kamloops, BC
I vote for 16.5 inch, youth stock, 308, oversize bolt handle.. I don't care what kinda sights.
Short barrels
If you guys are concerned about the rifle becoming a restricted firearm, you shouldn't be. The definition of restricted as quoted from the CFC website: "A semi-automatic, centre-fire firearm with a barrel length less than 470 mm that is not a prohibited firearm".
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm
If you guys are concerned about the rifle becoming a restricted firearm, you shouldn't be. The definition of restricted as quoted from the CFC website: "A semi-automatic, centre-fire firearm with a barrel length less than 470 mm that is not a prohibited firearm".
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm
Like I said in the other thread, put me down for one (maybe 2) of a Stevens 200 in 308win with open rifle sights on a 18.5" (16.5" would work too).
I figure that with an 18.5" barrel, you would have a bush gun right around 6 lbs (or slightly less). Adding a scope would be a bit more, but a great combination none the less.
I hope it happens, soon.
I figure that with an 18.5" barrel, you would have a bush gun right around 6 lbs (or slightly less). Adding a scope would be a bit more, but a great combination none the less.
I hope it happens, soon.
I just found this thread.....really interested. Peep sights would be my preference as well.....Williams rear with a Fibre Optic front, maybe the ability to attach a Burris FastFire type of Red Dot would be nice. 16" - 16 1/2" barrel would be great.......18"works as well if that is all we can get. I like the idea of a detachable Mag.
Put me down for a Stevens 200 in .308 with a 16.5 inch barrel. Even better would be one in 338 Federal or at least seperate sporter barrels so we can swap them ourselves (.308/.338 Federal/.358)!!!
I don't care about sights since I would put a good fixed 4x scope on it. I would rather have a synthetic stock so I don't give a sh## when it gets beat up. I'll probably end up painting it anyways.
I don't care about sights since I would put a good fixed 4x scope on it. I would rather have a synthetic stock so I don't give a sh## when it gets beat up. I'll probably end up painting it anyways.
Less then 18.5" seems like a good start for a special run.
NECG masterpiece front sight ramp would be nice upfront if possible and a quick detachable peep mounted on the rear scope rail.
Might be cheaper to just leave them without sights and let people customize as they see fit...
NECG masterpiece front sight ramp would be nice upfront if possible and a quick detachable peep mounted on the rear scope rail.
Might be cheaper to just leave them without sights and let people customize as they see fit...
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The following is how I would like to set up a .308 bolt action carbine, and while not meant as a direct criticism to the rifle forwarded by CanAm, I recognize that not all of my suggestions are practical or affordable on a mass produced rifle, but are suggested as possible improvements for folks who buy that rifle.
On the question of cartridge, I think it would be a mistake to initially bring the rifle out chambered for a reduced cartridge only, so I would object to the 7.62X39. A .308, 358, 7-08, .260 Remington, and a .243 will do things that the commie carbine round will not. When it is desirable to have a small game cartridge, or a light recoiling round for a child, a small adult, or a beginner, any of the aforementioned rounds can be down loaded appropriately, but you can't add more power to the 7.62X39. Of course my answer to "What is it for?" might be different than yours.
I think once a rifle barrel becomes much shorter than 18" the feel becomes clubby, and muzzle blast could become an issue. A lighter contour barrel than shown in the pic would be nice, perhaps culminating with a muzzle diameter of .590" and could shave a few ounces from the overall weight of the rifle.
My preference would be a ghost ring and post sight arrangement, with a means of mounting a scout scope forward of the action. Perhaps a long Picatinny rail would simultaneously provide a mounting option for a ghost ring sight, a conventional scope, and a scout scope.
I prefer a floor plate to a DBM, but if a magazine is the issue equipment, a second mag held in reserve under the butt stock, ala Styer Scout, would be a nice if expensive touch. If the floor-plate option was chosen, a rear notch for a stripper clip would be handy.
Due to the short fore-end length, the proper mounting point for the front swivel is on the radius of the fore-end to prevent a cut hand from the swivel stud. While this would omit a swivel stud bipod fastening point, I don't know if an ultra short rifle would be equipped with a bipod very often. If I wanted to mount a bipod on such a rifle I would consider an aluminum rail inletted under the fore-end.
On the question of cartridge, I think it would be a mistake to initially bring the rifle out chambered for a reduced cartridge only, so I would object to the 7.62X39. A .308, 358, 7-08, .260 Remington, and a .243 will do things that the commie carbine round will not. When it is desirable to have a small game cartridge, or a light recoiling round for a child, a small adult, or a beginner, any of the aforementioned rounds can be down loaded appropriately, but you can't add more power to the 7.62X39. Of course my answer to "What is it for?" might be different than yours.
I think once a rifle barrel becomes much shorter than 18" the feel becomes clubby, and muzzle blast could become an issue. A lighter contour barrel than shown in the pic would be nice, perhaps culminating with a muzzle diameter of .590" and could shave a few ounces from the overall weight of the rifle.
My preference would be a ghost ring and post sight arrangement, with a means of mounting a scout scope forward of the action. Perhaps a long Picatinny rail would simultaneously provide a mounting option for a ghost ring sight, a conventional scope, and a scout scope.
I prefer a floor plate to a DBM, but if a magazine is the issue equipment, a second mag held in reserve under the butt stock, ala Styer Scout, would be a nice if expensive touch. If the floor-plate option was chosen, a rear notch for a stripper clip would be handy.
Due to the short fore-end length, the proper mounting point for the front swivel is on the radius of the fore-end to prevent a cut hand from the swivel stud. While this would omit a swivel stud bipod fastening point, I don't know if an ultra short rifle would be equipped with a bipod very often. If I wanted to mount a bipod on such a rifle I would consider an aluminum rail inletted under the fore-end.
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BigDotGlock
Regular
As I said in the other thread, my preference is for a plain Stevens with an 18.5" barrel and iron sights. Keep it simple and leave the custom touches to the buyer, that way more of us can afford one and they sell better.
If the short barrel obsession wins out, I can deal with a 16", that's as short as I'd go though.
If the short barrel obsession wins out, I can deal with a 16", that's as short as I'd go though.
manbearpig
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Somewhere in the Third World
it certainly would if it didnt come from the factory with a 16" barrel - which is what ive been saying.
anyone can cut and crown a barrel to 18.5" for $100 or less.
with my 16.5" .308 Frontiers, there is not much more muzzle blast than with my 22-24" barreled .308s. noise doesnt seem noticeably louder, but i cant say for sure because i am always wearing my Peltors.
