savage 110 338

Just did a "back of the envelope" calculation for 338 Lapua AI reload cost.
I used the latest Canadian prices for primers, tips, and powder including taxes. I used the corrected price for Lapua brass based upon 20 reloads per casing.
I get $1.67 per round (did not include cost of reloading equipment)

Easily below $2.00 per round. The price referred to in previous posts is the usual internet rubbish and should be ignored.

Each subsequent reload lowers the per round brass cost. The more you shoot, the cheaper it gets. lol
 
I like that it causes massive tissue and bone destruction. Makes the 1000 yard pack back to the truck lighter. Ravens and black flies love the jellowy goop left behind. Toothless coyotes can even get a meal if they are fast.lol
 
curtmg said:
Lincoln, not Laurier ;)
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Yet, but our dollar is on part at the moment, beside, don't forget about the TAX.

Toomanyguns said:
I like that it causes massive tissue and bone destruction. Makes the 1000 yard pack back to the truck lighter. Ravens and black flies love the jellowy goop left behind. Toothless coyotes can even get a meal if they are fast.lol
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Now you are talking about hunting in Canada right, last time I heard , the Dino are Gone Long time ago, I see more people miss with big magnum than a 270win, maybe you they should start out with something smaller, like a 243win.
Unless you the Guy from Calgary, that can shoot 3" at 1076yard Away Consistent(All the Time).
 
There are many factors that affect accuracy while shooting at real, live game. Lots of people cant stop shaking. Most people never practice. Many rifles are poorly sighted, bad rest. Many are scared of recoil. and on and on....................................................................

I will be shooting marmots with the big magnum as soon as they start excavating the local rancher fields.

I'm not the 3 inch guy from Calgary. Mine is 12":cool:



GunBoy said:
Yet, but our dollar is on part at the moment, beside, don't forget about the TAX.



Now you are talking about hunting in Canada right, last time I heard , the Dino are Gone Long time ago, I see more people miss with big magnum than a 270win, maybe you they should start out with something smaller, like a 243win.
Unless you the Guy from Calgary, that can shoot 3" at 1076yard Away Consistent(All the Time).
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I Can DO 3" at 100meter no problem, Not blind fold on bipot, I am not sure they miss because is a Much more violent recoil in magnum or just because it uncomfortable to shoot, and they don't have much practice. Either way smaller caliber are more comfortable to me, So I would rather spending the time with it, and hone the skill, 700meter is a good range for 270win, that good enough for me...

Your Goto Deer Caliber is 375HH, I know another RedNECK buddy that like the 375HH.
Don't get me wrong, I respect all RedNECK, Even Got a Rifle Name REDNECK!....
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Cant pop a zit on a moose ass with that little 270 from 700 yard! lol I like the 375HH because I can shoot animal through brush and trees. Sometmes them big moose will stand behind a bush for long time.
 
Never had Moose, don't think I like it, I guess I go for Chicken, Duck, Dog(Coyote).
I just like Blinking Gong, Not really the Hunter Type.

Where you get your Bullet supplies, I got some 300grain 338 bullet, cost at around $90 per 100, 45 for box of 50 sierra BTHP.
 
I bought a 5 year supply a few years ago before the import/export law shenanigans with the US. Same for primers and powder. Glad I did.

Today bullet price is $41.99 for 50 at WS and US869 powder is 28.99 per pound. Still reasonable.
 
Toomanyguns said:
Just did a "back of the envelope" calculation for 338 Lapua AI reload cost.
I used the latest Canadian prices for primers, tips, and powder including taxes. I used the corrected price for Lapua brass based upon 20 reloads per casing.
I get $1.67 per round (did not include cost of reloading equipment)

Easily below $2.00 per round. The price referred to in previous posts is the usual internet rubbish and should be ignored.

Each subsequent reload lowers the per round brass cost. The more you shoot, the cheaper it gets. lol
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Not when your brass costs $200 per 50 and has a life of 5 reloads. The .338 LM is just the sissy version of the .416 Rigby, which I became intimately familiar with. Very few of the .416 Rigby Norma cases would hold a primer after 5 reloads, so 20 reloads with a .338 Lapua loaded to even higher pressures ain't in the cards.

When I think of how much money I have in my .308 target rifle, $3K for a the Savage .338 LM is a steal if the quality of the components is similar. Having said that I believe that two rifles of equal type and quality should cost the same regardless of the chamber.
 
Boomer said:
Not when your brass costs $200 per 50 and has a life of 5 reloads. The .338 LM is just the sissy version of the .416 Rigby, which I became intimately familiar with. Very few of the .416 Rigby Norma cases would hold a primer after 5 reloads, so 20 reloads with a .338 Lapua loaded to even higher pressures ain't in the cards.

When I think of how much money I have in my .308 target rifle, $3K for a the Savage .338 LM is a steal if the quality of the components is similar. Having said that I believe that two rifles of equal type and quality should cost the same regardless of the chamber.
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With all due respect, you are calling at least 20 CGN members and over 50 Long Range Hunting forums members, that I know of, who all shoot 338LAI rifles liars.

I have OVER 20 reloading from my original Lapua brand brass and it is still working just fine.
Expect some of the others who belong to the incredibly accurate 338LAI club to also chime in. Why exactly this particular combination IS as accurate as it is and why the brass lasts as long as it does has no cast in stone reason, yet the fact remains with as many of these that are in use today, they DO what is claimed both in accuracy and case life.

My reloading costs mirror exactly what toomanyguns has posted.
 
"$3K for a the Savage .338 LM is a steal if the quality of the components is similar."
I do agree , $3000 for a Savage is a good deal after bipot, ring, mount ready to go, is a good price. savage make some of the most accurate rifles for the money, so if any one wanted one that will shoot, stock different is a Minor Cosmetic, one you get use to, you like it, floating bolt head, Quality Button rifles(hard to beat)


"Having said that I believe that two rifles of equal type and quality should cost the same regardless of the chamber."

maybe in a Perfect world is would work out that way, but people pay for what look great, Not necessary if it work great or Accurate.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
With all due respect, you are calling at least 20 CGN members and over 50 Long Range Hunting forums members, that I know of, who all shoot 338LAI rifles liars.

I have OVER 20 reloading from my original Lapua brand brass and it is still working just fine.
Expect some of the others who belong to the incredibly accurate 338LAI club to also chime in. Why exactly this particular combination IS as accurate as it is and why the brass lasts as long as it does has no cast in stone reason, yet the fact remains with as many of these that are in use today, they DO what is claimed both in accuracy and case life.

My reloading costs mirror exactly what toomanyguns has posted.
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I have a few with over 20 reloads and a bunch with over 15, had to trim one case a year or so ago....
In all honesty the brass totally outlasts anything I have ever loaded for.
Ditto for what toomanyguns posted also. :)
 
Boomer said:
Not when your brass costs $200 per 50 and has a life of 5 reloads. The .338 LM is just the sissy version of the .416 Rigby, which I became intimately familiar with. Very few of the .416 Rigby Norma cases would hold a primer after 5 reloads, so 20 reloads with a .338 Lapua loaded to even higher pressures ain't in the cards.
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What?? You dont secure those loose fitting primers with Elmer's white glue or silicone?
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
With all due respect, you are calling at least 20 CGN members and over 50 Long Range Hunting forums members, that I know of, who all shoot 338LAI rifles liars.

I have OVER 20 reloading from my original Lapua brand brass and it is still working just fine.
Expect some of the others who belong to the incredibly accurate 338LAI club to also chime in. Why exactly this particular combination IS as accurate as it is and why the brass lasts as long as it does has no cast in stone reason, yet the fact remains with as many of these that are in use today, they DO what is claimed both in accuracy and case life.

My reloading costs mirror exactly what toomanyguns has posted.
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Well, that just goes to prove that what is true in one application isn't necessarily true in another. Looks like my comparison to the Rigby isn't valid, sorry about that.
 
That would all depended on How Hot you load it, there is no way to compare apple to Orange, one person gun might have a slight accurate over the other at specific level, but the would be different from one gun to the other, usually with hot load, group tended to open up.... there would be more stress on brass as compared to Lower pressure load.
 
Boomer, Norma brass in most of its chamberings is made of a softer alloy then just about any other brand. The new 6XC seems be made to a much tougher standard. Initial rumors of the 338 Norma are similarly positive.

the Orig 416 Rigby specs are pretty pokey by todays standards. But it was never meant for super hot loadings. Just pushing super heavy slugs at moderate pressures and velocities.

Today, there is also Hornady and Jamison both of which should me much tougher then Norma. A whole lot cheaper too.

Lapua brass is most certainly tough and the improved case shape does improve brass life. One thing to consider is neck work hardening. Some LR accuracy shooters are playing with annealing and reporting positive results.

They suggest annealing at least every 5 firings for best consistency. So far, my attempts at annealing have been mediocre so I have a lot to learn.

As a comparison, my 6.5 Mystic brass based off 308 Win brand has also tolerated over 20 reloads. I have yet to loose a case and I am on my 6th barrel. I just keep a batch of brass for each barrel and put them aside when the barrel is dead. Lots of old batches in storage.

If I figure out how to anneal without $500 worth of gear, I can resurrect these cases for other barrels. Primer pockets on all are tight and I most definitely run these cases hard.

Jerry
 
Well thanks for the reality check. I have never annealed and always assumed it was a simple thing to do. The learning never ends. I like that. You are a generous man to share your knowledge so freely. Cheers. I've been thinking of some sort of home made gizmo for a while now.
 
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