SAKO A7 - feeding problems

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So we took this brand new rifle to the range yesterday, to try it out, overall it was a great shooter, light, easy to chamber a round, fit and finish was very nice, and with out a lot of fuss or time spent we threw on a very chep scope and we were getting some 1 inch groupings, well until the scope screws loosened up and we just did not have the time to calibrate it all again, and since the scope was not to stay, it really did not matter.

However..........

There was an issue with feeding, and almost 95 percent of the time it was the second round, and 5 percent it was the third round.

first round chambers just fine, it extracts just fine, but when tring to load the second round, the tip of the bullet, instead of pointing up and following the feed ramp and going into the chamber, it tends to point down and you cannot chamber the round at all, at times it even tipped down so far it actually had it's tip back into the magazine.

The only thing we could see wrong or potentially the cause is that the feed spring is not strong enough, and this is allowing the bullet to not be pushed up with enough force to make sure it feeds correctly, and consistantly

I wish we had pictures of this, but perhaps my explanation will be clear enough, if not do ask and I will try to explain more.

This really has us stummped, and it's a shame for a new rifle to be like this.

It is once again a brand new rifle, never fired before ? it was purchased here off a fellow CGN'r, and I know not many are here yet, so it might be a stretch to get an answer. We are going to contact Stoeger to see if they have any ideas, and we are going to order a new magazine as well, just incase to eliminate it as the culprit. It was fatory ammo we used, however we only had one box of Winchester, so we can't say for certain that it's not ammo related either, since we were unable to compare other ammo yesterday.

Thanks for any input you might have....

Cheers
 
I had similar trouble with a Tikka, which has a similar plastic magazine. And on mine I took the follower out of the mag and smoothed off the sharp edges as they were hanging up, it has worked for about 250 rounds without a hitch since. Don't know if this will help your problem but good luck.

Chad
 
Thanks for the suggestions so far....

The lube can't hurt, but not sure if it will help, as it's not sticking or binding, but who knows.

and yes the edges are sharp as you say, perhpas a bit of smoothing out will help as well

will give it a try...
 
I think it's a weak spring in all honesty

Will have to get another mag and see

I will do up a few hand loads, with no primers and gun powder, for testing, I don't have time to go and get snap caps right now, and going back to the range willnot be for a bit either.
 
i second no lube in the mag unless you can get some dri-lube, oil will collect dirt and grime over time and will leave you jammed right when that 170" whitetail comes out. we have had nothing but problems with feeding in the tikas in the magnum calibers even worse in the WSM,s go back to the dealer as soon as you can to get a new clip or whatever you need to fix it if you wait to long your dealer wont help you.
 
I've got an A7 and do not have your feeding problem. However, taking the sharp edges off the follower is a reasonable thing to do. Out of curiosity what is the rifle chambered in? Mine is a 7mm08 - (short action). Oiling a plastic mag won't do a whole lot of good in my opinion. I just removed my mag and depressed the follower. It does have a weaker spring than any other rifle mag I own and the forward end of the follower appears to depress with less force required than the rear end....but it does not bind anywhere....juast some observations for ya.
 
Is the ammo too long for the magazine? If ammo is too long it can bind in the magazine as it moves upward.

Simple thing to check. Simple thing to fix.
 
A-7

I have 3 Sako A-7 rifles 22-250/ 25-06/ 270wsm. No feeding issues at all. I would return your mag to an authorized Sako dealer for a replacement. As for the loss of zero. I was able to turn the factory base mount screws in about 3/8's of a turn tighter than factory settings.
 
I've got an A7 and do not have your feeding problem. However, taking the sharp edges off the follower is a reasonable thing to do. Out of curiosity what is the rifle chambered in? Mine is a 7mm08 - (short action). Oiling a plastic mag won't do a whole lot of good in my opinion. I just removed my mag and depressed the follower. It does have a weaker spring than any other rifle mag I own and the forward end of the follower appears to depress with less force required than the rear end....but it does not bind anywhere....just some observations for ya.

308

yes no binding, that we can see, only as you say, a very weak front, as though the spring is no existent I am not sure if there are two or just one, have not had a chance to take it apart

What cartridge is this rifle chambered for?

Ted


308

Is the ammo too long for the magazine? If ammo is too long it can bind in the magazine as it moves upward.

Simple thing to check. Simple thing to fix.

factory ammo

Were you using reload?

no as mentioned, it was factory ammo, however we only had one brand on hand, Winchester, no other at the time to try another
 
I have 3 Sako A-7 rifles 22-250/ 25-06/ 270wsm. No feeding issues at all. I would return your mag to an authorized Sako dealer for a replacement. As for the loss of zero. I was able to turn the factory base mount screws in about 3/8's of a turn tighter than factory settings.

Going to get my buddy to order a new mag anyways, always good to have a spare, and see if any difference, if it's better, I will get him to get the original replaced for sure.

As for not holding zero, or anything to do with the scope, it's a none issue, the scope was only a test, it will and did not stay on the scope, he is looking for a suitable scope for this rifle, he just has not decided on what to get as of yet.
 
I had similar problem with a Tikka M695 - though it was the base of the shell was pointed down so the bolt would not grab it when cycling the action. I had the dealer replace the magazine and have never had a problem since.
 
Well, for anyone else who is having an issue, just have the dealer replace........

They are aware of the issue, but are not broadcasting it, and are dealing with it on a one to basis, you ##### and complain you get a new one, you don't, they will not advise anyone.

Why the issue, this is not known either, no one would say anything, other than they have come across a few.

Either send it in and get it replaced (if your not close enough) or go to the dealer/distributor, as we did (STOEGER) and have it replaced right there and then.
 
Keep the lube out of the magazine well, and snap caps would be the last thing I would use to check feeding.

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Why?
 
From my experience Snap Caps don't always feed like loaded ammo, could be the tolerances, could be the material, could be the weight....I don't know.
They are great for trigger work but are not to be counted on for cycling tests.
...they are nice to have but in my opinion are overpriced
 
From my experience Snap Caps don't always feed like loaded ammo, could be the tolerances, could be the material, could be the weight....I don't know.
They are great for trigger work but are not to be counted on for cycling tests.
...they are nice to have but in my opinion are overpriced

Agreed!

You can easily make your own snap caps by loading a dummy round with whatever bullet you want, and filling primer pocket with high density RV silicone.

If the silicone gets too compressed, takes quite a few firing pin falls, just put another dab in there let it cure and you're ready to go again.

Ted
 
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