.22 in IDPA
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Just finished reading your thread. That got a little out of control.
Well, the article in the IDPA Journal says to write them a letter regarding your interest as many have already. I am going to do the same. Maybe we can get this to happen.
I understand where you are coming from. This is why the proposal makes it manditory that the .22 be a conversion from an already approved IDPA pistol.
Trigger and grip, etc. will be the same. Just recoil changes. I know I would shoot more often.
There is currently a study going on by HQ regarding the establishment of a .22Lr Competitions. There are a number of issues to be decided upon before any decision is made, not the least of which is demand.
We shoot what we call little idpa in the winter. With deep snow we prefer not to bother picking up brass so the .22 fits the bill. One issue that certainly has to be resolved is the use of a target. The regular size target rpresents little challenge out to distances of 15 yards. We have tried stipulating head box shots only but the targets take quite a beating. One club I know of prints the IDPA target out on 8.5x11 paper and staples those to regular targets.
There are some who would like to see .22 competitions to alow for younger teens an inexpensive arena for competitions and others see it as a way to avoid escalating ammo prices/shortages.
If you have any thoughts on CoF rules or rules in general for such a division please email them to me. bob.bonenfant@idpa.com
Take Care
Bob
We shoot what we call little idpa in the winter. With deep snow we prefer not to bother picking up brass so the .22 fits the bill. One issue that certainly has to be resolved is the use of a target. The regular size target rpresents little challenge out to distances of 15 yards. We have tried stipulating head box shots only but the targets take quite a beating. One club I know of prints the IDPA target out on 8.5x11 paper and staples those to regular targets.
There are some who would like to see .22 competitions to alow for younger teens an inexpensive arena for competitions and others see it as a way to avoid escalating ammo prices/shortages.
If you have any thoughts on CoF rules or rules in general for such a division please email them to me. bob.bonenfant@idpa.com
Take Care
Bob
heavenIsAlie
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talk to your club. im sure no one will have an issue if you want to shoot .22 you just wont be in any class or competition (and if they do make a fuss, id find a different club personally)
im getting my gf out to a match, and she is going to shoot a non idpa approved gun in .22
im getting my gf out to a match, and she is going to shoot a non idpa approved gun in .22
Exactly. That said there are those who want to compete in 22 style shooting. Personally I hope HQ does come up with a workable way of accomodating .22LR pistols. Certainly the type of target used is going to have to be looked at. Perhaps one 1/3 the size of the regular target. Thoughts?
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Bob
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- Peace River, Alberta
.22 idpa
I for one do not want to see IDPA have a 22 division. I have no issues with action 22 but let's start something else instead of doing it this way.
Regards,
Greg
I for one do not want to see IDPA have a 22 division. I have no issues with action 22 but let's start something else instead of doing it this way.
Regards,
Greg
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- Peace River, Alberta
Action 22
There are a lot of different action based 22 events. I would rather see that they trying to include something into IDPA that doesn't follow the purposes or principles of the current IDPA group.
Greg
There are a lot of different action based 22 events. I would rather see that they trying to include something into IDPA that doesn't follow the purposes or principles of the current IDPA group.
Greg
Steve David
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I agree, no division, but it sure comes in handy on outdoor ranges in the winter for practice shoots or to just get out and shoot.
heavenIsAlie
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well you are going to need different matches for it anyways if you want to rank it ect so you might as well give it a different name i guess
setting up two sizes or targets at one match isnt feasable
setting up two sizes or targets at one match isnt feasable
I like the idea of just doing it just at your local club matches. Save a bit of ammo and go through the stages a few more times with your .22 conversion.
The couple of posts regarding winter and brass pick up are something I never thought about. I am joining an outdoor club in two weeks so this would be great. I am going to bring my .22 converison to my next local IDPA match and shoot a few stages with it.
The couple of posts regarding winter and brass pick up are something I never thought about. I am joining an outdoor club in two weeks so this would be great. I am going to bring my .22 converison to my next local IDPA match and shoot a few stages with it.
Agreed,
.22s have no place in IDPA, at least IMO. If your club shoots the occasional .22 match in the winter thats fine, but I don't think we should be changing the rule book to allow a .22 division, seems very much at odds with the spirit of IDPA.
I'll admit though, I have no firm idea how many people CCW with a .22, though I'd imagine the numbers are very low.
In the end it will be up to Bill Wilson and is Board s to what they decide to do. One thing for sure if they do decide to add .22 shooting to the sport it won't be mandatory and if clubs don't want to shoot it they sure won't have to.
For us in the iwnter time it lets us get out when we might not otherwise. Unless there was a way to come up wi much smaller targets then I don;'t see much of a challenge to the use of .22 pistols. Time will tell.
Take Care
Bob
I suspect the drive is to try to get more folks introduced to the sport. But while I like the idea of .22 events I also agree with the original concept that only allowed the center fire calibers for competition. Instead I think that the clubs would be smart to allow a .22 class for those wanting to try it out or that just are not interested in the "full meal deal". On that front I think the parent organization should encourage the inclusion of a .22 class but as a non scoring fun only event. But while I'm saying that it should be non scoring that doesn't mean that the clubs hosting a .22 event don't actually score the shooter. Instead it's just that the scores are only good for bragging rights and don't count towards any sort of actual championship. This way new shooters can come out and play and receive feedback but overall they are being encouraged to move up. Certainly the bigger events where time is tight due to the number of shooters should either not host a .22 event or should cap the entry.
There's many .22 owners out there that would love to try this stuff but are not ready to commit by buying a new gun and all the stuff needed. A more casual event that encourages them to come out would be a good thing. More shooters means more money in the coffers for a club that may only see a dozen or twenty shooters at an event. Add on a half dozen .22 shooters in their own class and you get the makings of a great day and eventually some new blood moving up to a "proper" center fire gun to compete in the fully scored championship classes.
But other than officially recognizing and encouraging such a side class I do not agree with the idea of including a .22 class in the official IDPA structure any more than I'd like to see it in the IPSC structure. And this is coming from a big .22 handgun fan. And despite my love for my .22 handguns I agree with the precepts that IDPA and IPSC are based on in terms of the power of the firearms used for these competitions.
There's many .22 owners out there that would love to try this stuff but are not ready to commit by buying a new gun and all the stuff needed. A more casual event that encourages them to come out would be a good thing. More shooters means more money in the coffers for a club that may only see a dozen or twenty shooters at an event. Add on a half dozen .22 shooters in their own class and you get the makings of a great day and eventually some new blood moving up to a "proper" center fire gun to compete in the fully scored championship classes.
But other than officially recognizing and encouraging such a side class I do not agree with the idea of including a .22 class in the official IDPA structure any more than I'd like to see it in the IPSC structure. And this is coming from a big .22 handgun fan. And despite my love for my .22 handguns I agree with the precepts that IDPA and IPSC are based on in terms of the power of the firearms used for these competitions.
