Ultimate do everything but not over do anything cartridge for all big game hunting

Camp Cook said:
I've been thinking about the ultimate do everything but not over do anything cartridge including recoil for big game hunting and after seeing my 25 year old son shoot a mule deer buck Monday afternoon with my appr 50 + year old Husquavarna chambered in 270 Weatherby that my grandfather had given my dad 40 years ago and the rifle I shot my first 10 or so deer with I was reminded how proficient a 140gr 270 cal bullet @ 3200fps - 3300fps is especially now that premium bullets are available.

After giving us the rifle my grandfather appr 25 - 30 years ago demanded the 270 back and gave us 4 other rifles a 243, 30-06, 300 Mag and a 308 Norma Mag in exchange for it then to my amazement a few months before he died @ 94 years appr 3 years ago he gave me back the 270 Weatherby it was a dream come true for me getting that gun back I worked up a load with 140gr TSX and gave it to my son wow history...

So my pick is obviously a 270 Weatherby now loaded with 140gr TSX @ 3200 + fps...


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x2, 270 WBY Mag,with 140 Gr Nosler Accubond's:D ,We have three Rifles chambered in the 270 WBY Mag,Floating around in the Family's gun safes. A Lazermark,A FiberMark and a custom Rifle built by Martini and Hagn,out of Cranbrook BC.
 
senior said:
Then why not go to the Weatherby .300mag or one of the other high folutin mags.
Then again why play with a 180 when a 338 will handle 250gns?
Then again why play with a 338 when a 375 will handle 300gns.
See where this goes.
A 30-06 is the best average round for the avergae guy.
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I haven't seent he "intraweb hero cartridge rundown" for a few years. It is usually stupid, although it's the other way around...Like:


A .358 is almost a .375
A .300 is almost a .358
A .30-06 is almost a .300
A 7x57 is almost a 30-06
A .243 is almost a 7x57
A .22-250 is almost a .243
A .223 is almost a 22-250
A .22 Hornet is almost a .223

So why not hunt buffalo with a .22 Hornet?

Going the other way is equally silly.



"Logically" choosing a cartridge should be about balance. And most of the Weatherbys and RUMs and magnums over .308 caliber aren't really "balanced" for most hunters. (Doesn't keep them from buying them, though)

If you can only have one rifle, and mostly hunt deer and moose but might one day hunt grizzly, there isn't much point in choosing a .375 - unless you want to. Probably better to just make sure you are using a good premium bullet in your moose gun.
 
the 30-06 with 180 grain bullets.will handle any of the big game animals including grizzly.with proper bullet placement of course.and just about every corner store/sporting goods retailer carries a variety of 06 ammo can not say that about the magnum rounds.if your are a reloader then it will not be a problem thou.
 
If you know how to SHOOT and you know how to HANDLOAD, this entire thread may be rendered completely redundant with three short words:

THREE

OH

THREE.

Bullet selection right now (jacketed) ranges from 86 through 215 grains.

You can add to this when you start casting.

Powder selection is wide enough that you can load for anything from gopher to grizzly.

With a 150, it duplicates the original performance of the WON-DER-FUL .30-'06.

What's not to like?

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smellie said:
If you know how to SHOOT and you know how to HANDLOAD, this entire thread may be rendered completely redundant with three short words:

THREE

OH

THREE.
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amen brotha, amen

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smellie said:
If you know how to SHOOT and you know how to HANDLOAD, this entire thread may be rendered completely redundant with three short words:

THREE

OH

THREE.

Bullet selection right now (jacketed) ranges from 86 through 215 grains.

You can add to this when you start casting.

Powder selection is wide enough that you can load for anything from gopher to grizzly.

With a 150, it duplicates the original performance of the WON-DER-FUL .30-'06.

What's not to like?

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todbartell said:
amen brotha, amen

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TESTIFY!!:ar15:
 
todbartell said:
amen brotha, amen

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How are you finding the accuracy on those TSX's?

I am seriously considering switching to them as my standard 303 Brit hunting round, but every 303 Brit I ever shot preferred 180's over 150's. I was thinking that, being TSX's, they'd likely be long for their weight, and so might still be quite accurate though.

Hit any game with them yet (besides maybe that grouse...)?
 
at 200m they were hitting about 2" apart, only shot four rounds (two 2 shot "groups"). I was very happy with that

I haven't gotten to know my 303 well enough yet to find out how a variety of loads shoot. 180gr Sierra's did 2" 5 shot @ 100m in the only time Ive tried them, with RL17

no on game results on the tsx yet besides the grouse, maybe this month if I get lucky and can find a 2pt bull moose
 
I would pick my .375 H&H not because it is better than anything else but because I am so familiar with it and it does the job everytime I use it. Shoots where I point it and kills what I point it at.
 
Jim AB said:
With that said IMO to small for moose and unless using heavy for caliber bullets elk is a stretch.
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Sorry. Thought I'd just mention and correct this common mistake as its a stupid pet peeve of mine.

In no way is a moose harder to kill than an elk. Elk are BY FAR the toughest land mammal in North America. Moose are relatively soft and weak by comparison, even the big ones. Grizzly and polar bear hide doesn't even get close to approaching the toughness of elk hide. After shooting more than a dozen of each, elk have always proven to me to be the tougher, more determined to survive animal.

In any case, nothing more than a .308 or .30-06 is needed for anything in NA. :shotgun:
 
7mm Rem Mag

I've yet to be let down by my M70. Fav. mix is 165gr. Sierra GameKing BTSP. Deer, moose, bear and a few smaller critters. Haven't been let down yet. Bedded in a B&C synthetic stock with a Pachmayer decelerator pad - it kicks less than my .270 does.

If I really wanted to unleash the power I'd look at the .30-378 Weatherby Mag. (My shoulder winces just by typing that!) YIKES!
 
Is the question "Ultimate do everything caliber" or "Minimum you can get by with", or "most killing power for the recoil", or "best choice for someone who habitually forgets his ammo."? :confused:
 
CreamySmooth said:
Sorry. Thought I'd just mention and correct this common mistake as its a stupid pet peeve of mine.

In no way is a moose harder to kill than an elk. Elk are BY FAR the toughest land mammal in North America. Moose are relatively soft and weak by comparison, even the big ones. Grizzly and polar bear hide doesn't even get close to approaching the toughness of elk hide. After shooting more than a dozen of each, elk have always proven to me to be the tougher, more determined to survive animal.

In any case, nothing more than a .308 or .30-06 is needed for anything in NA. :shotgun:
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I agree with Creamy Smooth on this one! And I have shot a lot of both moose and elk in my 50+ hunting years. Elk are tougher by a good margin, and seem to possess a stamina not normally seen in it's cousin, the moose.
 
My choices are mostly situational, only my .30-06 would be well-suited to any big game hunting scenario. Good ballistics, ergonomics of the rifle are nice, handles well without being overly long or heavy, it's probably the only gun I own which would do everything I would need from a big game rifle at least "well". Everything else I own has more specific uses and is less suited as an all-around option.
 
Dogleg said:
Is the question "Ultimate do everything caliber" or "Minimum you can get by with", or "most killing power for the recoil", or "best choice for someone who habitually forgets his ammo."? :confused:
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+1. I thought "versatility" was the name of the game here :confused:
 
"Ultimate do everything caliber for the recoil"

There fixed it now hopefully you guys will understand why I see the 270 Wby as the ultimate...

:p
 
Camp Cook said:
"Ultimate do everything caliber for the recoil"

There fixed it now hopefully you guys will understand why I see the 270 Wby as the ultimate...

:p
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How about "Ultimate do everything except for all the stuff that it's not even remotely in the running for, for the recoil"?

I'm changeing my vote to .22 LR, that should find favor with those who forget their ammo too. If you walk around looking at the ground you should be able to find ammo for it just about anywhere.:)
 
Dogleg said:
How about "Ultimate do everything except for all the stuff that it's not even remotely in the running for, for the recoil"?

I'm changing my vote to .22 LR, that should find favor with those who forget their ammo too. If you walk around looking at the ground you should be able to find ammo for it just about anywhere.:)
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Now you've got me curious as to what it isn't in the running for because I can't think of an animal including grizzly in N America that I wouldn't shoot/kill with it...

:p
 
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