I am interested in finding out what fair Canadian prices would be for Nazi marked K98's. I realize there can be a great variation but U.S. prices are no guideline as they are nuts. So few seem to come up for sale on the EE that values are hard to figure. What would be reasonable for a 1938 42 code restored sporter. All matching numbers on the metal, (except for the barrel bands and buttplate)80% blue, stock is a correct WW2 replacement. RC's are going for $400 and up so I thought this would be double that. Any opinions?
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- Thread starter Mike Webb
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It sadly won't be worth much more than an RC, as it is a Mis-matched rifle.
Probably $400-600
If all the hardware matched, you could always replace the stock and you would have a $600-800 rifle.
Canadian K98 values are actually higher than US values (alot fewer vet guns here in Canada) so most were imported post war and are mis-matched. True matched/all correct rifles are very rare and are often fakes are passed. For example, an all matching Czech refurb, is not a true Nazi K98 matching rifles.
Rough values:
RC/Mismatched sporter $350-600 (Canada and US)
Mismatched (bolt only) $400-800 (Canada and US)
All matching Czech/Noro $600-$750 (Canada and US)
All matching rifle $900-2000+ (Canada and US).
There are always exceptions, for example some RC's were original sniper rifles, some were Single Rune or SS marked, some Czech still had the priginal WWII sniper mounts, when other rifles might have captured papers, unit markings, maker etc.
I think an RC is almost nicer than a completley mismatched sporter as all the parts are military and under the shelac you have some nice stocks. If you had a sporter with all matching metal or minus a matching bolt, it would have a premium value.
They are all nice rifles and parts are available to make the rifle very presentable. I think the rifle you have would be worth $600-700 if you round the proper wood/hardware.
Cheers
Probably $400-600
If all the hardware matched, you could always replace the stock and you would have a $600-800 rifle.
Canadian K98 values are actually higher than US values (alot fewer vet guns here in Canada) so most were imported post war and are mis-matched. True matched/all correct rifles are very rare and are often fakes are passed. For example, an all matching Czech refurb, is not a true Nazi K98 matching rifles.
Rough values:
RC/Mismatched sporter $350-600 (Canada and US)
Mismatched (bolt only) $400-800 (Canada and US)
All matching Czech/Noro $600-$750 (Canada and US)
All matching rifle $900-2000+ (Canada and US).
There are always exceptions, for example some RC's were original sniper rifles, some were Single Rune or SS marked, some Czech still had the priginal WWII sniper mounts, when other rifles might have captured papers, unit markings, maker etc.
I think an RC is almost nicer than a completley mismatched sporter as all the parts are military and under the shelac you have some nice stocks. If you had a sporter with all matching metal or minus a matching bolt, it would have a premium value.
They are all nice rifles and parts are available to make the rifle very presentable. I think the rifle you have would be worth $600-700 if you round the proper wood/hardware.
Cheers
The rifle is all matching barrel, receiver, bolt(serialed several places), floor plate, trigger guard, screws(action), sights. I got a walnut stock with flat butt plate from Mr. Kabalt in Holland off a Norwegian capture. So the rifle isn't a total mismatch, oddly enough the S/N is 6737 on the rifle and 6761 on the stock and barrel bands, different letter block though. I will get some pics up later this week, they are worth a hundred descriptions. Thanks for the input.
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"$ 300-$500 I think "
I got $10.00 that says if you put it on the EE for $500.00 tomorrow, it's gone before Monday morning. =D
I got $10.00 that says if you put it on the EE for $500.00 tomorrow, it's gone before Monday morning. =D
If you really want some opinions they new specialty site for K98's is www.k98kforum.com
Some of the people who regular the site are the people who wrote "Kriegmodell" this publication puts Law's K98's books in second place. With proper hardware relatively matching you have boosted the value up to $500 if not maybe even $700.
Alot of bringbacks didn't even have matching parts (repairs, bolts were often seperated at field depo's upon surrender, etc).
Some of the people who regular the site are the people who wrote "Kriegmodell" this publication puts Law's K98's books in second place. With proper hardware relatively matching you have boosted the value up to $500 if not maybe even $700.
Alot of bringbacks didn't even have matching parts (repairs, bolts were often seperated at field depo's upon surrender, etc).
Coyote Ugly
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Unfortunately, with a restored sporter, it's only worth the sum of the parts.
The Germans never serial numbered buttplates, so with your Norwegian stock,
it's a giveaway what it is - mismatched and incorrect, which hurts collector value compared to a pristine example.
Mismatched Bands - just don't belong on that rifle and never did, never will. Not factory Original anymore. Shooter Grade Rifle.
The Norwegians serial numbered the buttplate "Post War". So did the Russians and East Germans "Post War". Rebuilds. Refurbs. Alterations. Not Original Anymore.
Even if just one part is mismatched, the value drops over 50% as compared to a legit matching example.
I don't know if you're buying it or selling it, but don't get caught up in the hype and feeding frenzy and the BS and sweet talk in some of the sellers ads where you will tragically overpay and regret it thinking it is something it's not.
I have a Standard Model 1924 marked receiver made at Mauser Oberndorf in 1933, sadly, the rest of the rifle is mis-matched and is in mid-late WW2 trim which is incorrect for that model. The bore is excellent condition and she shoots well so that is what I paid for along with the rare receiver. Won't be worth anything beside an original example. Got her for just under the going price for a RC.
Serialized parts on German rifles are a double edged sword. You know if they are the parts fitted to the rifle at the factory when she was made or if they were replaced sometime afterwards due to situation but the value is affected either way.
Serialized parts on German rifles are a double edged sword. You know if they are the parts fitted to the rifle at the factory when she was made or if they were replaced sometime afterwards due to situation but the value is affected either way.
Here are a few pics, the sporter stock is well done. Actually all buttplates were serial numbered on prewar and early war rifles. The one on the sporter stock was numbered to match the rifle but was thinned down by the stockmaker and unusable on the issue stock. The one on the Norwegian surrender stock was numbered by the Germans but lined out by the Norwegians who put their own number on it. Later war guns were not serial numbered as extensively, at the end reduced to only the bolt and the action.
Still a nice rile and a rifle saved!
As some people pointed out, not worth as much as an all matching but then again, in my opinion it looks correct which adds value to a complete mis-match.
They are not making any more K98's and even RC's will be worth something again one day. People forget the days when the only RC's that were available were captured Vietnam rifles that realized sale values of over $1000 with Capture papers.
I saw someone sold a Nor K98 for only $400 on Gun Nutz last week. That would have been a good value.
Keep it up and don't get discouraged. It is easy for old collectors to be picky, but they were also collecting when matching K98's sold for only $200 and surplus WWII ammo was easy to be had. For younger collectors finding an authentic matching K98 is hard enough, yet alone if one is willing to pay the $1000-2000 for a rifle unseen, a rifle which may or may not be truly authentic/matching.
As some people pointed out, not worth as much as an all matching but then again, in my opinion it looks correct which adds value to a complete mis-match.
They are not making any more K98's and even RC's will be worth something again one day. People forget the days when the only RC's that were available were captured Vietnam rifles that realized sale values of over $1000 with Capture papers.
I saw someone sold a Nor K98 for only $400 on Gun Nutz last week. That would have been a good value.
Keep it up and don't get discouraged. It is easy for old collectors to be picky, but they were also collecting when matching K98's sold for only $200 and surplus WWII ammo was easy to be had. For younger collectors finding an authentic matching K98 is hard enough, yet alone if one is willing to pay the $1000-2000 for a rifle unseen, a rifle which may or may not be truly authentic/matching.
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