Surplus Garands from South Korea

MILLWRIGHT;
"is this all a wet dream because he said a few cryptic words. "

Ok let me be perfectly clear on this, I will not, cannot, discuss anything to do with this matter....
Should there be any news I will certainly post it..
John
 
NNTW;
"If he's following THIS thread by way of market research to gauge interest (not that such business concepts are relevant to Marstar, according to John), he's probably having his guys (and girls) clear a big spot in the warehouse right now. "

Come on now, if you think for one second that I would base decisions to buy any large numbers of material on what I hear on this site, you are sadly mistaken....
While I do value the opinion of the members here, they do represent a very small number in the overall picture.

When we deal in large numbers, lets say the Yugo Mausers a few years ago, more than 350,000 of them, I have to know what markets are available to me, not just Canada, not just retail, etc, etc....
John
 
johnone said:
NNTW;
"If he's following THIS thread by way of market research to gauge interest (not that such business concepts are relevant to Marstar, according to John), he's probably having his guys (and girls) clear a big spot in the warehouse right now. "

Come on now, if you think for one second that I would base decisions to buy any large numbers of material on what I hear on this site, you are sadly mistaken....
While I do value the opinion of the members here, they do represent a very small number in the overall picture.

When we deal in large numbers, lets say the Yugo Mausers a few years ago, more than 350,000 of them, I have to know what markets are available to me, not just Canada, not just retail, etc, etc....
John
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Goodness, such a long reply to my 'tongue in cheek' comment. Thanks John!

And thanks for the business lesson. Your comments should help posters keep things in perspective- remind us where we fit in your scheme of things.
 
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Thanks Johnone for posting your cryptic words again:D.Neither confirm nor deny. I still love ya man(figuratively of course).And yes Gunnutz is just a small drop in the bucket for a man with Johns firearm empire
 
This thread is starting to sound reminisent of the Russian SKS one a while back. Wonder how many replies we'll hit, I will start the bid at 1000
 
if you add to this forum these posts

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=502649&highlight=garand


and these
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473806&highlight=garand

not to mention these

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444511&highlight=garand

we've got 118 posts already.

yeah, popular topic.

but john can't comment, as i think he's said at least once in each thread
 
Newspaper reports state:

"A total of 86,000 M1 rifles and another 22,000 carbines will be sold, according to the ministry, which estimates their expected sale price at $220 and more than $140, respectively."

Be interesting to see what they RETAIL for.

Edit: oh, sorry, forgot, not gonna happen.
 
Undergiver said:
86,000 M1 Garands. that is alot of inventory and $$$ even for Marstar. I would be down for 1 maybe even 2 if the price was right.
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Doubt we would see all 86,000 rifles if they do come over. Chances are that Marstar will go, are have the Koreans go and sort them into something like poor, Satisfactory, good, and Excellent grades and only the good and up grades will be imported and the rest get left to the whim of the Koreans, which is still around 30,000 rifles saved and in the hands of canadian Gun Owners.

As For price, I can see around 600 for a "good" grade rifle, which is not too bad as one would usually pay more then that for a "satisfactory" grade one.
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
Doubt we would see all 86,000 rifles if they do come over. Chances are that Marstar will go, are have the Koreans go and sort them into something like poor, Satisfactory, good, and Excellent grades and only the good and up grades will be imported and the rest get left to the whim of the Koreans, which is still around 30,000 rifles saved and in the hands of canadian Gun Owners.

As For price, I can see around 600 for a "good" grade rifle, which is not too bad as one would usually pay more then that for a "satisfactory" grade one.
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Not if the market gets flooded with them
Look what happened to the price of a Russian SKS
 
#1bcshooter said:
Not if the market gets flooded with them
Look what happened to the price of a Russian SKS
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True, but then look at how many SKS's were imported, and are still being imported.

Maybe 600 was a little high. But, speculation on price is probably not the best thing to do I guess as it will start rumors and then people will start getting angry when they announce a price if they come in and its higher then the rumored price. Remember Marstars Chinese SKS's, The whole $100 a rifle thing got around pretty fast.
 
This was hashed around on another site, and here is a quote from one of the guys and sounds like a plausible explanation as to why they are being blocked.


From IH8MUD:

As much as I despise Oblama, this story is neither accurate nor fair. The Korean government has been trying to get export approvals so they can sell 100,000 plus surplus U.S. rifles (86,000 garands and 22,000 carbines) to U. S. importers for more than 5 years (long before the Obamunist administration) and have been blocked by U.S. government objections. However, these objections have been based upon the fact the the rifles were loaned by the Defense Dept to Korea, and remain U.S. property. When they became surplus to Korean needs, under the various agreements, the arms were supposed to be returned to the U.S. Army. Instead, the Korean government is trying to sell them to raise some 108 million dollars for their own defense establishment. The stories as to why the U.S. objects (such as the complaint that they might lead to accidents, etc )originated in Korea, not the U.S. and are an attempt by Korea to get past the fact that we still own these rifles, not Korea, and Korea has no legal right to "sell" them to anyone. If the Koreans simply followed the agreement and returned them to the U.S. the rifles would most likely simply be transferred to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) and sold to U.S. citizens. The Koreans do not want to do this. Korea did get in some diplomatic "hot water" some years back when they illegally sold off some garands to U.S. arms dealers without U.S. government approval (the so-called "Blue Sky" garands). They are trying a end run this time around for a much larger sale.
 
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