Action shooting with a .22??

Generally not "run and gun", but definitely action pistol.

I think Mission Speed Steel is running their last match this weekend (although it might have been last weekend) and has a .22 category/division.

The match is on Oct 23, runs from 8am to 4pm (although I think they actually run it as two separate matches, morning and afternoon).
speedsteel@shaw.ca for more information.
 
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I followed the tacrifle link. That looks really cool. I don't suppose pistols are permitted in the Action22 event. :)

Maple Ridge is close by. I would defineately be interested. Most of my friends are gun owners as well... I'll pass the word along.

What is "Speed Steel"?
 
Speed steel is steel challenge based.

6 stages of 5 steel plates. You start at low ready and on the start signal, shoot each steel once and finish on the "stop plate". You repeat the stage 6 times and they discard your worst time. Your total score for the match is the sum of all your times, so lowest time wins.
 
jumpingjupiter said:
I followed the tacrifle link. That looks really cool. I don't suppose pistols are permitted in the Action22 event. :)

Maple Ridge is close by. I would defineately be interested. Most of my friends are gun owners as well... I'll pass the word along.

What is "Speed Steel"?
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Sorry, only noticed just now that your original question was about pistols not rifles. Glad to see its still of interest to you. If you sign up on the tacrifle googlegroup you can opt for email updates when events are announced. Otherwise I will post them on the Events Forum here on CGN.

And no, for the time being pistols are not allowed in the Action22 event ...
 
IDPA HQ is now considering some form of .22 Division. We shoot what we call idpa as oppposed to IDPA in the winter here in Terrace during the winter months outside. Simple stages frozen in . We usually have three stages and simply move the targets around. Saves chasing brass in the snow and wet. Biggest challenge is to design targets that are a challenge. Without recoil hitting the down zero and even head box shots are not all that difficult with .22 pistols.

We enjoy ourselves and once the fingers are numb we head back to the clubhouse for coffee, pzza and beers. Nice way to spend an afternoon making noise when the snow/rain is coming down in January.

Take Care

Bob
 
Thanks for the info Bob. Nice to here IDPA is considering .22 division. If they do, I'll bet IDPA will see a swell in membership.
Run and gun organizations look like a load of fun but I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in shying away from blowing 200 bucks on ammo for an afternoon of entertainment.
 
jumpingjupiter said:
Thanks for the info Bob. Nice to here IDPA is considering .22 division. If they do, I'll bet IDPA will see a swell in membership.
Run and gun organizations look like a load of fun but I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in shying away from blowing 200 bucks on ammo for an afternoon of entertainment.
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Most club shoots in IDPA run anywhere from 80 - 120 rounds so the costs are not quite as high as you think. That said for most reloading is the only way to go if you are playing either IDPA or IPSC.


Take Care

Bob
 
jumpingjupiter said:
Is reloading economical for 9mm? Not sure why I'm even asking... I live in a 1 bedroom apt... I don't have the space to reload.
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I cast my own boolits so my costs are less than some but I am down to around $6.00 per hundred not including cost of running melter, smelting my own lead source from WW and my time. If you by plated at say $100/1000 you jump to approx. $8.00 per box of 50.

Take Care

Bob
 
I think a .22 division castrates the sport and also isn't the best idea from a continuation of the sport perspective; ie. government could say "You don't need a centerfire handgun, you can compete with rimfire... etc etc". The idea is the sport is a practical endeavour, with real cartridges, I sure hope that doesn't change.
 
jumpingjupiter said:
Is reloading economical for 9mm? Not sure why I'm even asking... I live in a 1 bedroom apt... I don't have the space to reload.
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When I first got into reloading, I was living in a 1 bedroom place. I had a Dillon 550 that I had bolted to a 3 foot long 2x6. I would store that on a shelf in a closet until I needed it, and then would bolt it to a kitchen table using C clamps. I was only using 1 kind of powder and bullets, and storing a case of bullets, a 4lb keg of power and a box of primers wasn't too much storage.

My reloading area has kind of exploded to fill out the space as I upgraded, though.

Sorry for going off topic.
 
Ardent said:
I think a .22 division castrates the sport and also isn't the best idea from a continuation of the sport perspective; ie. government could say "You don't need a centerfire handgun, you can compete with rimfire... etc etc". The idea is the sport is a practical endeavour, with real cartridges, I sure hope that doesn't change.
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Perhaps but .22 shoots are fun in the winter. Saves chasing brass. It would also allow those with an aversion to recoil to compete in regular matches as well as those who have a disability where recoil cannot be tolerated. I know a lady who broke here arm just above her wrist and shooting any kind of center fire gun is a no, no yet she does quite well with a .22lr.

As a participant I really don't care what someone in the squad is shooting as what they use has no effect on my ability to play the game and compete.

Ardent you are not alone in your opinion though and HQ is hearing all sides with no decision yet in place.

Take Care

Bob
 
Ardent said:
I think a .22 division castrates the sport and also isn't the best idea from a continuation of the sport perspective; ie. government could say "You don't need a centerfire handgun, you can compete with rimfire... etc etc". The idea is the sport is a practical endeavour, with real cartridges, I sure hope that doesn't change.
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There might be room for action shooting sports that employ .22LR to facilitate the earlier entry of junior shooters, but I think it is best if our "practical" shooting sports remain true to our roots. A strict interpretation, not the recently popular PC/sanitization/revokation of traditional core values (for imagined Olympic Gold). No thank you!

We don't need any more of that.
 
I'd be surprised if the host organizations for IDPA or IPSC ever adopt a .22 class. As you say it is just too easy to shoot perfect scores. And the whole idea was about POWER and speed.

But nothing at all stops IDPA or IPSC clubs from having "idpa" or "ipsc" events to their own standards using .22 for some winter or indoor fun using smaller targets and small steel fallers or similar much like Canuck44's club does up in Terrace for some winter fun.

The same guys that are running the Mission club's Speed Steel monthly matches (and yes the one this past weekend was the last for this year) are working on some steel falling racks with the goal being for some one on one .22 only competition. The fallers will be set up so that the first to down all their targets wins that matching. Losers of the first set of matches go on to shoot against each other with the top one or two from the losers ranks going on to shoot in the semi finals of the winners side. Lots of shooting because losing one match does not end the day for anyone.

They are hoping to have this running by next Spring.
 
I have no interest in IDPA adopting a .22 division, I think its just as dumb as the multi-gun rules they released.

IMO, its completely against the core values and ideology of IDPA.

IDPA is a conceal carry action pistol sport....its roots are in CCW, not in the up and coming shooting trends that are 3 gun matches or rimfire matches. Don't get me wrong, I love 3 gun matches, and rimfire....but neither belong in IDPA
 
BCRider you make some good points. I have read where .22 steel competitions are quite popular stateside but that is a whole different kettle of fish. Aside from the target/accuracy challenge finding .22 bullet holes can slow down the match considerably. The only way I thinkj a .22 division will work is if you held a stand alone .22 match, Mixing the two disciplines makes less sense to me but I won't be making the call. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Take Care

Bob
 
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