Help a new guy out........ Ziess, Leupold or Nikon

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sniper_26_99

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Just purchased my first high power rifle. Being a pistol guy I know very little about scopes and possible mounting options.

Seems like everyone has a different opinion at every store I go to. I don't even think the last customer service KID who gave me advice ever shot a riffle in his 18 years on this earth......... LOL!!!!

Anyways......... I have a Savage Weather Warrior FCSS in 30-06 and looking to get a good scope that hold true zero and that I could use for hunting and I also plan on rolling my own ammo to see what king of accuracy I can get out of it.

I already have a Bushnell 3X9 on a .22 Remington and I 3X9 would be kind of week for longer shots.

What power would you recommend for hunting and precision shooting? I don't think I'll be doing any shooting over 100/200 yards.

What are things to consider? Its pretty hard to look at a scope and say it does the job without having fired it?

Also would like your input on warranty and after sale service if something goes wrong.

Thanks for the info
 
Any of those scopes will shoot better than you at those ranges, just a nice fine reticle so you can see a good image without obstructing your target view.

Spend approx what you did on the rifle for a scope and you will have very few issue. Remember, most of our rigs are better shooters than we are!! ;)

Look through a few, see what glass is clearest for you, NOT the sales man, get the one with the options you need. But 200 yard shooting, not much need for anything over 9 power
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Any of those scopes will shoot better than you at those ranges, just a nice fine reticle so you can see a good image without obstructing your target view.

Spend approx what you did on the rifle for a scope and you will have very few issue. Remember, most of our rigs are better shooters than we are!! ;)

Look through a few, see what glass is clearest for you, NOT the sales man, get the one with the options you need. But 200 yard shooting, not much need for anything over 9 power
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Just how far do you shoot when your at the range? Its been so long ....... If I'm going to buy something the price of the rifle I could spend the extra 100$ or so and do it right the first time.
 
You stated you were planning on shooting 100/200 yards. I would guess a "regular" gun range has 500 as a max( there are some further some less)
But if you are wanting to stretch out those shots maybe you want something stronger. 4.5-14 or 6 to 20 or there abouts. Bushnell actually makes some very versatile scopes as well in their higher end line.

Personally I am using Zeiss exclusively on my stuff.Why?? I like the clarity of the glass. You may like the durability and warranty of a Leopold. Almost everyone has specs for what almost everyone will be shooting. Decide how far you want to play and your budget.

But agreed, with optics, do it right the first time!!!



sniper_26_99 said:
Just how far do you shoot when your at the range? Its been so long ....... If I'm going to buy something the price of the rifle I could spend the extra 100$ or so and do it right the first time.
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Kelly Timoffee said:
You stated you were planning on shooting 100/200 yards. I would guess a "regular" gun range has 500 as a max( there are some further some less)
But if you are wanting to stretch out those shots maybe you want something stronger. 4.5-14 or 6 to 20 or there abouts. Bushnell actually makes some very versatile scopes as well in their higher end line.

Personally I am using Zeiss exclusively on my stuff.Why?? I like the clarity of the glass. You may like the durability and warranty of a Leopold. Almost everyone has specs for what almost everyone will be shooting. Decide how far you want to play and your budget.

But agreed, with optics, do it right the first time!!!
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I have to agree on the Zeiss clarity but basically wondering if there are any difficulty finding your targets at a closer range with a stronger scope? For example a 3X9 over a 4.5X14.

As far as the long shots go my range has a 400 yard slot but hardly anyone uses it.

4.5X14 was my first choice since its the second most used from what I've read so far.
 
I'd go for 4.5x as the bottom end magnification if you plan to use the gun for hunting as well. 6.5x is too much for many hunting situations, IMO.

I'd go with a Leupold VX3 in 3.5-10 if you plan to hunt with a bit of range use and a VX3 4.5-14 with Adjustable Objective/Side focus for more range use than hunting.

You won't notice a difference in clarity from a VX3 to a Conquest, at least I can't.
 
I have used my 4.5 - 14 on stand in the bush, no issues at all, but I also spend alot of time setting my scope up for my eye and get the best out of it I can for me.On low power your field of view is fairly wide.Bushnell has a 2.5-16 , this may be more ideal if you are worried about close range target acquisition and will also give you nice zoom at longer distances. And don't worry about it being a Bushnell, it is the 6500 series which is a very good quality optic. The Zeiss Conquest line is hard to beat for the price. Or your could go VX III. But Any of these, among others will do what you like.3-9 , 4.5-14, 2.5-16, 4-12. Then if you want to hunt twilight , I'd go 50mm objective, or better quality glass with a 40mm. the options are endless here!! ;)
 
I heard somewhere that as a general rule you should spend just as much on the scope as ou did on the rifle you are mounting it on. I personally doubt I will ever make Zeiss optics a financial priority as I have very limited cash flow for my firearms. I use a basic Bushnell 3x9 and have good results to 300 and beyond (450 yds for my last muledeer). I might try a 4 - 12 or something like that If you are certain that your eyes would benefit from more magnification.
 
Spend the few extra bucks and get something that will increase your opportunity for that solid kill shot. My personal favorite for the money is a Leupold 3x9 with a 50mm objective. I I say that because a great presentage of shots your going to take will be either at dawn or dusk where the bigger objective will draw in a little more light. May make the difference between taking a confirmed shot vs not being sure and not taking the shot at all.
 
May make the difference between taking a confirmed shot vs not being sure and not taking the shot at all.
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You use binoculars to confirm a target,not a riflescope.You don't point a rifle at anything,until you are 100% sure of the identity of the object.
 
stubblejumper said:
You use binoculars to confirm a target,not a riflescope.You don't point a rifle at anything,until you are 100% sure of the identity of the object.
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Thats great if you have only one animal in front of you, there standing and you have time. Thats not always the case. In low light I want the clearest shot I can get just so that I can be 100% sure.
 
Thats great if you have only one animal in front of you, there standing and you have time. Thats not always the case. In low light I want the clearest shot I can get just so that I can be 100% sure.
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If you don't have time to be 100% sure the target,you shouldn't be pointing a gun at it.
 
More is better, allows you to be more comfortable on the gun, less chance of getting hit by the scope, and allows more adjustment for your eye.

Get a one piece rail/mount to help improve mounting configurations.



sniper_26_99 said:
Whats better? More or less eye relief? Seems like some scopes won't have much play when I look at how far apart my mounts will be.
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I do agree with stubblejumper on this one, this is how accidents can be caused, gives the stereo type of gun slinging cowboys who wanna shot up the world . Hunters don't need that. But yes a larger objective is more desirable when hunting low light conditions but is no substitute for binos. I myself have had my rifle aimed and suddenly saw a person, not a good feeling.And yes, I was aiming at the animal not the person.



stubblejumper said:
If you don't have time to be 100% sure the target,you shouldn't be pointing a gun at it.
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A one piece rail mount would fit across the whole top of the action? Would that interferer with the ejection?


Kelly Timoffee said:
More is better, allows you to be more comfortable on the gun, less chance of getting hit by the scope, and allows more adjustment for your eye.

Get a one piece rail/mount to help improve mounting configurations.
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