is it legal to cut my 18 inch barrel to 16 inch

Nope. You can remove the 18" barrel and install a manufactured 16" barrel and it is all legal. If you cut it to 16", kittens die and babies everywhere are threatened with extinction. Stupid? Yes.

Mark
 
I had the same idea, I wanted my 16.5 Dlask chopped to 14.5 but I was told it was a no no. It has to be manufactured to specific lengths.
 
Yes I concur. It would be illegal. Its sad but true how much of an oxymoron our laws are. I can put an 18" barrel on a 1870's remington single action army revolver, swap out the hand grip part of the frame for a pistol grip rifle stock to turn the gun into what is effectively a revolving carbine rifle even go so far as weld the barrel + grip frame on so it can never be a pistol again,and it is still considered a restricted weapon (pistol) Now if I take an original buntline or carbine and put a pistol grip on it and a 7" barrel turning my long gun into a pistol it is now considered a prohibited weapon?! Historically Remington and colt put long barrels and stocks on a pistol frame to make these guns in the first place! But I'm not allowed to.
 
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ciphery said:
Yes I concur. It would be illegal. You can buy short parts but not make them. Its sad but true how much of an oxymoron our laws are. I can put an 18" barrel on a 1870's remington single action army revolver, swap out the hand grip part of the frame for a pistol grip rifle stock to turn the gun into what is effectively a revolving carbine rifle even go so far as weld the barrel + grip frame on so it can never be a pistol again,and it is still considered a restricted weapon (pistol) Now if I take an original buntline or carbine and put a pistol grip on it and a 7" barrel turning my long gun into a pistol it is now considered a prohibited weapon?! Historically Remington and colt put long barrels and stocks on a pistol frame to make these guns in the first place! But I'm not allowed to.
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Yea :nest: , but they are classed as manufacturers....:stirthepot2:....:rolleyes:
 
And this simple example is all that is needed for any thinking human being to realize that all of our gun control legislation has nothing whatsoever to do with public safety.

If short barreled guns were a public safety issue and needed to be controlled, simply requiring that a licensed gunsmith do the chop and re-register the gun with the short barrel would sufficient to prevent guns being chopped without the paperwork reflecting that change.

Law abiding owners would be able to get a short barreled gun without the rigamarole of buying and installing a new barrel at potentially great expense and it would still be illegal for anyone to make a sawed off shotgun or rifle in their basement.

Instead, we got this horse s**t system.

Mark
 
There was a thread posted a couple days ago (or more) "do you think my friend will be upset?" as the title, or something like that. He took his friends shotgun and chopped the barrel. I'm not sure if he's a licensed gunsmith.... just surprised that no one jumped on him in his thread :p
 
MrSchultz said:
There was a thread posted a couple days ago (or more) "do you think my friend will be upset?" as the title, or something like that. He took his friends shotgun and chopped the barrel. I'm not sure if he's a licensed gunsmith.... just surprised that no one jumped on him in his thread :p
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cutting a non-semi shotgun to 18" while the overall length is still legal doesn't make it restricted. Under 18" things are different.
 
MrSchultz said:
He took his friends shotgun and chopped the barrel. I'm not sure if he's a licensed gunsmith.... just surprised that no one jumped on him in his thread :p
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What would they jump on him for? It is perfectly legal to cut any manual action centerfire barrel down to 18" and any semi-auto centerfire barrel down to 18.5". Go below 18" and you have created a prohibited firearm.

MrSchultz said:
I see, but illegal to cut down a restricted 16" barrel to 14" ?
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Yes, that is correct.

The Criminal Code states that a prohibited firearm is:

•a handgun with a barrel length of 105 mm or less;
•a handgun designed or adapted to discharge 25 or 32 calibre ammunition;
•a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make it less than 660 mm (26 inches) in overall length;
•a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make the barrel length less than 457 mm (18 inches) where the overall firearm length is 660 mm (26 inches) or more;
•an automatic firearm and a converted automatic firearm;
•any firearm prescribed as prohibited.
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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm

The law simply states that the barrel has been altered to be less than 18", it doesn't matter what the original length is. Yet more stupidity, nothing more.


Mark
 
mmattockx said:
What would they jump on him for? It is perfectly legal to cut any manual action centerfire barrel down to 18" and any semi-auto centerfire barrel down to 18.5". Go below 18" and you have created a prohibited firearm.



Yes, that is correct.



http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm

The law simply states that the barrel has been altered to be less than 18", it doesn't matter what the original length is. Yet more stupidity, nothing more.


Mark
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all these laws make me want to :puke:

very very silly that you can't cut down a restricted rifle barrel to shorter, yet still restricted barrel. :puke:
 
You could replace all that bull#### with one rule: Over 26" is fine. Presumably, overall length is the logical thing that the bureaucrats are attempting to control. Keep it simple, stupids!
 
The Criminal Code states that a prohibited firearm is:

•a handgun with a barrel length of 105 mm or less;
•a handgun designed or adapted to discharge 25 or 32 calibre ammunition;
•a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make it less than 660 mm (26 inches) in overall length;
•a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make the barrel length less than 457 mm (18 inches) where the overall firearm length is 660 mm (26 inches) or more;
•an automatic firearm and a converted automatic firearm;
•any firearm prescribed as prohibited.
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note how every section of the firearms act has a little blurb that says "anything else we want". This is our government writing its own carte blanche powers into legislation, without onus or limitation.
 
Can-down said:
Why can't you cut restricted barrels down to 4.2 inches?
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You can if it is a handgun, not if it is a rifle or shotgun. People cut handgun barrels down to 4.2" on a regular basis with no problems. Read the wording:

•a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make it less than 660 mm (26 inches) in overall length;
•a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make the barrel length less than 457 mm (18 inches) where the overall firearm length is 660 mm (26 inches) or more;
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philthygeezer said:
You could replace all that bulls**t with one rule: Over 26" is fine. Presumably, overall length is the logical thing that the bureaucrats are attempting to control. Keep it simple, stupids!
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Don't go getting all logical on us. That is too simple for your typical bureaucrat to follow and doesn't add in the required obstacles to civilian gun ownership.

Mark
 
mmattockx said:
What would they jump on him for? It is perfectly legal to cut any manual action centerfire barrel down to 18" and any semi-auto centerfire barrel down to 18.5". Go below 18" and you have created a prohibited firearm.



Yes, that is correct.



http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm

The law simply states that the barrel has been altered to be less than 18", it doesn't matter what the original length is. Yet more stupidity, nothing more.


Mark
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Actualy what it says is "Any rifle or shotgun altered to make the barrel less than 457mm(18") ......."
So technically me ordering a 16" barrel from factory to replace my 18" stock barrel is "modifying a rifle or shot gun to have a barrel less than 457mm(18)"." If I bought the gun that way new that's one thing. If I modified the gun no matter how I accomplished the modification it would be illegal wouldn't it? The law apparently has no provision for how the GUN came to have a short barrel. It states that THE GUN has been modified not the barrel.
 
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