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Mercury0_0 said:
I doubt they'd make a .308 pistol. When they made the 5.56 pistol all the gun nuts in the States lost the ability to purchase and shoot armor piercing ammo for their AR's etc. Apparently, civillians aren't allowed to have armor piercing handgun ammo, only armor piercing rifle ammo is legal.
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If that's the case, aren't they gonna lose the ability to buy armour piercing .308/7.62 ammo with the DSA FAL pistol?
 
fnrob said:
If that's the case, since DSA is already working on the FAL pistol, I guess the US public is gonna lose their ability to buy armour piercing .308/7.62 ammo anyways. So why not make a LAR-8 pistol?
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I suppose it's a case of "just because we can doesn't mean we should". It would be a boon for Canadians because we'll be able to have 10rd .308 mags, but the Americans will lose the ability to purchase armor piercing .308 ammo.
 
Mercury0_0 said:
I suppose it's a case of "just because we can doesn't mean we should". It would be a boon for Canadians because we'll be able to have 10rd .308 mags, but the Americans will lose the ability to purchase armor piercing .308 ammo.
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I just realised my original post kinda sounded uncaring towards the American legal situation on buying armour piercing ammo. That wasn't my intent at all. All I'm saying is that if it ever comes to the situation where they can no longer buy .308/7.62 armour piercing ammo, convincing them to make a LAR-8 pistol would be a good thing for us. But I'm certainly not wishing for it at the American's expense.
 
Mercury0_0 said:
I doubt they'd make a .308 pistol. When they made the 5.56 pistol all the gun nuts in the States lost the ability to purchase and shoot armor piercing ammo for their AR's etc. Apparently, civillians aren't allowed to have armor piercing handgun ammo, only armor piercing rifle ammo is legal.
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AFAIK Almost all rifle calibre ammo is armour piercing. Dumb laws.
 
Whats the whole appeal of Armor piercing ammo anyways? Accuracy? Affordability? Or is it just the "hey cool im shooting armor piercing ammo!" thing?

Someone enlighten me.
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
Whats the whole appeal of Armor piercing ammo anyways? Accuracy? Affordability? Or is it just the "hey cool im shooting armor piercing ammo!" thing?

Someone enlighten me.
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I think a bunch of Mil. Surp. 5.56 and 7.62 nato has steel core, just the way it was made, so because its surplus ammo its affordable and available...

not 100% sure though.
 
My understanding of the AP issue was that the US mid ban steel core 7.62x39 (such as the Czech stuff, and some Norinco) becuase someone made a pistol in that calibre.
But I thought they turned a blind eye to the .223/5.56 ammo, probably as it would affect US manufacturers.



On another note, anyone else think that a FH makes this look dumb?
Isn't the point behind a bullpup to shorten it? To deliberately add 3 more inches back on seems silly to me.
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tootall...I'm with ya on the FH...I don't want one huge like that but would be willing to have the A2 style re-threaded back on...
 
Savage said:
Is there a benifit to having a chrome lined barrel ?????? It does add cost to the rifle and if everyone is concerned about the costs then way have a chrome lined barrel.
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Could care less about chrome lined. You get more life from the barrel and it's good for corrosive ammo (won't be using any with this rifle). However it's likely to be less accurate. You don't see many precision rifles with chrome.
 
I put a Phantom flash hider/brake on my FS2000. Looks pretty good I think. I'd like to put a dedicated brake on my RFB. I guess I'll have to do some research on which one is best for .308.

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Savage said:
Is there a benifit to having a chrome lined barrel ?????? It does add cost to the rifle and if everyone is concerned about the costs then way have a chrome lined barrel.
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You'll get a big increase in barrel life regardless of what kind of ammo you use. And in this country (where replacement parts/barrels from the US are in the process of being banned or heavily regulated) you want maximum life (so you don't need to replace stuff so much) out of your wearing parts/surfaces. If you do a lot of shooting, chrome lined is the way to go IMHO;). They tend to jam less from semi and full autos as well.

In the past, chrome lining was another manufacturing step that could affect (negatively) internal barrel accuracy/consistency if not done correctly (just like anything else). So that's probably where the part about these barrels not being accurate came from.

Chrome lining has been done for a long time now. Reputable makers are doing a very consistent job nowadays. I believe the Knight SR-25 rifles are chrome lined and are guaranteed half moa rifles. Amoung affordable rifles the FN tacticals are chrome lined and have an excellent reputation for accuracy. I had a (much older) Steyr SSG 69 which is also chrome lined and is more accurate than the brand new M-24 I once tried out.

What I'm trying to say is don't buy into the "chrome lined barrels aren't accurate myth". Nowadays, I'm not sure you could measure the difference from a quality manufacturer, let alone be able to be good enough of a shot to see a difference. If there is an appreciable price difference (between chrome-lined barrels and non lined), I'm sure it's more than made up for by the costs of having to get a new barrel and hire a gunsmith to install it when the time comes.

Now, if I can only find a way to chrome line my bowels!:D
 
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$55 for used mags? Whatever.................

$9 or up to $20 each for great ones.... But wait, someone has to pin them, I forgot that adds $30


I think Marstar should have a Hoard of Metric Mags overseas. Lets get him to bring them in for $25 each


EDIT: I would like to add that I LOVE Wolverine Supplies...:) I have purchased a few Firearms from them, including $80 AR-10 mags......
I'm sorry , but Mag pricing is my Pet Peeve
 
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rivetc78 said:
$55 for used mags? Whatever.................

$9 or up to $20 each for great ones.... But wait, someone has to pin them, I forgot that adds $30


I think Marstar should have a Hoard of Metric Mags overseas. Lets get him to bring them in for $25 each
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LoL!!!
I know. John just listed the pricing on the SUB 2000 and even though glock mags are aboundent here the are retailing them for over $700!
Even though down south it's only $300 and our dollar has been at par for over 3 months now and it will stay at this level for the next few months. Also I could seen maybe adding a $100 to $200 max for shipping and paper work but selling them for more than double what they cost. I think I'll take my money else were. I mean not like Kel Tec is now for selling great vaule fire arms at realy great prices.
LoL!!!
Thanx Vault but I think I'll pass on this over priced stuff.
 
What's the deal with no prices on the vault site on any firearms/optics? Do they use the barter system? Can I offer 3 goats and a used ski doo for an RFB or should I make an offer in gold bullion?
 
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