Firearms Registration in Nazi Germany
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I can see that they tried to be. By stepping on mountains of corpses and negating any claim to glory or humanity by their barbarism. Holy Roman Empire my ass. Trains running on time and great uniforms are not worth 30 million lives.
I don't really understand how you see the world to figure you will get on a public forum and make your first posts about nazis-are-misunderstood stuff.
Oh, and 'regarded as a great man until Britain declared war'
Yeah, things were running so good between Sept 1st and Sept 3rd 1939 and those damn Brits ruined everything. Who the f**k do you think you're talking to?Inb4 wehrmacht=/=nazi exit strategy.
edit: one last thought. If you're wearing Doc Martens boots while reading this, know that Hitler would have probably put you with the degenerates and up the chimney.
Man those old guys know how to put it.
Better throw on your Anti Nazi Propaganda Hats for this one kids! You just might get hurt!
Did you know that Jesse Owens could eat at any restaurant and stay at any hotel in Berlin, but in New York he couldn't because most restaurants and hotels were whites only?
In the end there is one truth we should all agree upon, the victorious write the history books.
Did you know that Jesse Owens could eat at any restaurant and stay at any hotel in Berlin, but in New York he couldn't because most restaurants and hotels were whites only?
In the end there is one truth we should all agree upon, the victorious write the history books.
Did you know that Abraham Goldberg could breath air in New York but Zyklon B in Sobibor? Did you know that POW Hans Schneider could eat in a restaurant in the US but POW John Smith was living off of Red Cross packages in Stalag whatever?
Yeah I guess it's a cheap argument.
Seriously, I can see that what many Germans thought they were doing at that time was admirable in many ways, but when everything was said and done, they were proven to be fools. Going the same way will only make you a fool that doesn't learn from some of the most obvious lessons of history.
Now, am I arguing with a Nazi? Crap, yeah, I am. Damn you internet!
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David Irving`s book UPRISING was banned in Canada because of ONE LINE. Three people who actually fought in Budapest in '56 told me exactly the same thing. This FACT is confirmed by existing Secret Police membship rosters, but it is politically incorrect to mention it.
Check out a fellow called HANS BEIMLER if you want to know about pure pre-war propaganda. THEN check out the HANS BEIMLER AWARD which was handed out by the former East German Government..... and be sure you check out what the award was FOR. You just might get a little surprise.
And one small point: traditionally, the European home of anti-Semitism was POLAND. The Nasties, basically, were a bunch of Heinrich-come-latelies although they were quite vicious enough.
BTW, we really must get our spelling correct of we are going to use words. There is a WORLD of difference between Aryans and Arians, one being a quasi-hypothetical race ancestral to lots of European cultures (including that of Ancient Greece, should you believe Homer), the other being a Christian movement named for Arius, who worked out the basic theory as to the true nature of Christ. This was the theory espoused by Ulfilas, he who converted the Goths about 1400 years before Adolf started painting postcards. As a Christian movement, it was excommunicated as heretical by the Council of Nicaea; the ensuant extirpation was lengthy and very bloody but it was all because God wanted it that way. Right.
There are still a few people living who spent time in KZs. Find one, talk to them, get their experience. Never believe what you are told is ''the truth'' if there is a way to check it out. As long as statements turn into battles and the battles are fought with pure regurgitated propaganda, we will NEVER arrive at any sane conclusions as to what happened or did not happen.
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Check out a fellow called HANS BEIMLER if you want to know about pure pre-war propaganda. THEN check out the HANS BEIMLER AWARD which was handed out by the former East German Government..... and be sure you check out what the award was FOR. You just might get a little surprise.
And one small point: traditionally, the European home of anti-Semitism was POLAND. The Nasties, basically, were a bunch of Heinrich-come-latelies although they were quite vicious enough.
BTW, we really must get our spelling correct of we are going to use words. There is a WORLD of difference between Aryans and Arians, one being a quasi-hypothetical race ancestral to lots of European cultures (including that of Ancient Greece, should you believe Homer), the other being a Christian movement named for Arius, who worked out the basic theory as to the true nature of Christ. This was the theory espoused by Ulfilas, he who converted the Goths about 1400 years before Adolf started painting postcards. As a Christian movement, it was excommunicated as heretical by the Council of Nicaea; the ensuant extirpation was lengthy and very bloody but it was all because God wanted it that way. Right.
There are still a few people living who spent time in KZs. Find one, talk to them, get their experience. Never believe what you are told is ''the truth'' if there is a way to check it out. As long as statements turn into battles and the battles are fought with pure regurgitated propaganda, we will NEVER arrive at any sane conclusions as to what happened or did not happen.
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morph18 is sadly misinformed maybe even a budding Heinrich Himmler. Germany was in a total mess following WW1 and the restrictions of the Treaty of Versailles had a lot to do with it however the Great Depression was not caused by this treaty, that's preposterous.(note to bearhunter) Hitler and the National Socialists were the catalyst for the German economic recovery that is precisely why the Nazis were given so much leeway by the German people. Personally I think some of the flames of European anti-Semitism(not just in Germany, by any means) were fanned by Christian churches as well as Jewish Zionists.
Hitler needed a scapegoat for all of Germany's problems and Versailles and the Jews were the two most convenient targets. The Vatican aside from a few isolated but very brave clergymen did nothing to stop the holocaust and Germany being a predominately Catholic nation, a papal denounciation of the persecution would have carried considerable weight. The whole Nazi philosophy will not stand up to any scrutiny by anyone of reasonable intelligence thus the room temperature IQ'S of their followers past and present, morph18 appears to fall into this category. I don't see his post as anything but baiting however it has flushed out a few Nazi apologists.
Smellie is really impressive though, the guy is a walking encyclopedia on a lot more than guns, hats off to him.
Hitler needed a scapegoat for all of Germany's problems and Versailles and the Jews were the two most convenient targets. The Vatican aside from a few isolated but very brave clergymen did nothing to stop the holocaust and Germany being a predominately Catholic nation, a papal denounciation of the persecution would have carried considerable weight. The whole Nazi philosophy will not stand up to any scrutiny by anyone of reasonable intelligence thus the room temperature IQ'S of their followers past and present, morph18 appears to fall into this category. I don't see his post as anything but baiting however it has flushed out a few Nazi apologists.
Smellie is really impressive though, the guy is a walking encyclopedia on a lot more than guns, hats off to him.
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I believe in moving on. This comes from a person who's grandmother toiled for 6 years in a forced labour camp in Germany during the war, and who's grandfather lost his entire family and all his friends after Germany devastated Poland (and fought under 3 flags). The Nazi's weren't the only nasty regime the world has seen, continues to see, and will certainly see in the future. Constant bashing often brings hatred, and today's good German people don't deserve to be constantly associated with the mistakes of the past. And no, I am neither an imbecile or a Nazi. I also find your comments highly offensive.
Trouble is you can use any words you want...
Caption might "say" buddy is registering his rifle, but all I see is a photo of a guy writing something and a rifle happens to be sitting on the same table...
Hell... For all we know this guy was signing to acknowledge the same rifle as being issued to him for some kind of civil rifle corps outfit... Or maybe he's signing the registrar at some SS wedding and the rifle is one of the gifts given to the newly weds... Or maybe?
Canada had universal(long gun) registration during WWII as well, but after the war the system was abandoned.
Canada`s long gun registry in World War Two succeeded in pulling in roughly one third of the rifles and shotguns out there. Not my figure: check ''The Cowboy, the Mountie and the Samurai''. Now, consider, THAT was when the whole country was pulling together.... and still two-thirds weren`t registered. I would be utterly shocked if it were any higher today, now that we have had the best part of 40 years of openly-malevolent Liberal governments.
Gummint during War Two also profited highly from this program, lots of guys turned in their guns before going overseas and discovered that said guns were no longer able to be located when they came back. Lots of police officers built up splendid collections for an investment of zero. Amongst many others, the recently-in-the-news Brandon City Police were famed far and wide for their efforts along these lines although other forces, including the RCMP, certainly managed to get ''their share'' of the spoils. This is part of the reason for the bull market in firearms through the 1950s: returned servicemen trying to put their hunting batteries back together again after the ''loss'' of their valuable property while they were living it up in historical spots such as Caen and the colourful Ardennes Forest.
This kind of looting and plundering of one's own people seems to be something at which governments and the people who make them up are most adept. The land in Vancouver which was ''confiscated'' from ''the Japs'' (many of whom were born here) was doled out among the politically well-connected (then) for pennies on the dollar (then) and now is worth billions.This does not even consider the value of nearly the entire BC ocean-fishing fleet, which was dominated overhelmingly by Japanese-ethnics at that time. When the ''Japs'' were let out of their CAMPS at the end of the war, the entire face of the BC commercial fishing industry had changed colour.
Something else: so-called ''enemy aliens'' could not possess firearms. This was another area in which the paint was applied with an 8-inch brush. In Northern Alberta it was applied to Swiss-nationality pastors from openly-pacifist sects, even in bear country and, after the Japanese got into the war, it included anyone with yellow skin, including the guy at the local Chinese restaurant, who was a citizen of a country supposedly fighting on OUR SIDE. I have a very nice Winchester 69A which was SOLD to my father by the fellow from the Chinese cafe in Viking, Alberta, when the news came out that ''Japs'' now included folks who spoke Mandarin, Canton, English and nothing else.
''Oh, but they couldn't have been Canadian citizens,'' you say. True enough, but then, NOBODY was a Canadian citizen. Neither was I at that time, even though I was born here. When I was born (1944) I was a ''British subject resident in Canada''. Actual Canadian citizenship did not exist until 1949.
BTW, I do believe that that nice Mister Adolf Hitler was selected as TIME Magazine's ''Man of the Year'' TWICE. Now guys, TIME Magazine wouldn't tell a FIB, would it..... or was there actually a positive side to the National-Socialist regime before everything degenerated into a fight.... Your opinions, guys.
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BTW again: none of this even considers the fact that the World Jewish Congress actually declared WAR against Nazi Germany in 1933. I have the newspaper clipping around here somewhere, will try to dig it out.
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Gummint during War Two also profited highly from this program, lots of guys turned in their guns before going overseas and discovered that said guns were no longer able to be located when they came back. Lots of police officers built up splendid collections for an investment of zero. Amongst many others, the recently-in-the-news Brandon City Police were famed far and wide for their efforts along these lines although other forces, including the RCMP, certainly managed to get ''their share'' of the spoils. This is part of the reason for the bull market in firearms through the 1950s: returned servicemen trying to put their hunting batteries back together again after the ''loss'' of their valuable property while they were living it up in historical spots such as Caen and the colourful Ardennes Forest.
This kind of looting and plundering of one's own people seems to be something at which governments and the people who make them up are most adept. The land in Vancouver which was ''confiscated'' from ''the Japs'' (many of whom were born here) was doled out among the politically well-connected (then) for pennies on the dollar (then) and now is worth billions.This does not even consider the value of nearly the entire BC ocean-fishing fleet, which was dominated overhelmingly by Japanese-ethnics at that time. When the ''Japs'' were let out of their CAMPS at the end of the war, the entire face of the BC commercial fishing industry had changed colour.
Something else: so-called ''enemy aliens'' could not possess firearms. This was another area in which the paint was applied with an 8-inch brush. In Northern Alberta it was applied to Swiss-nationality pastors from openly-pacifist sects, even in bear country and, after the Japanese got into the war, it included anyone with yellow skin, including the guy at the local Chinese restaurant, who was a citizen of a country supposedly fighting on OUR SIDE. I have a very nice Winchester 69A which was SOLD to my father by the fellow from the Chinese cafe in Viking, Alberta, when the news came out that ''Japs'' now included folks who spoke Mandarin, Canton, English and nothing else.
''Oh, but they couldn't have been Canadian citizens,'' you say. True enough, but then, NOBODY was a Canadian citizen. Neither was I at that time, even though I was born here. When I was born (1944) I was a ''British subject resident in Canada''. Actual Canadian citizenship did not exist until 1949.
BTW, I do believe that that nice Mister Adolf Hitler was selected as TIME Magazine's ''Man of the Year'' TWICE. Now guys, TIME Magazine wouldn't tell a FIB, would it..... or was there actually a positive side to the National-Socialist regime before everything degenerated into a fight.... Your opinions, guys.
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BTW again: none of this even considers the fact that the World Jewish Congress actually declared WAR against Nazi Germany in 1933. I have the newspaper clipping around here somewhere, will try to dig it out.
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Well, except that the English sign which was out of the picture described it as firearms registration....
But then again, I could be lying...
Hell, I could have painted the whole picture!!!
Is this real life?? Maybe we actually live in the matrix!!!!
What is real??
Hey 667, maybe the final solution isn't real either....
I can't see why you would be offended. I said nothing derogatory about the German people who I have great respect for, only Nazis. Two different things, we have Nazis over here too, same sh*t, different pile. Maybe this is a whole new side of political correctness, we aren't even allowed to name evil for what it is anymore. And yes, there are plenty of nasty regimes in the world but the nazis don't get a pass from me and they shouldn't from anyone else unless they sympathize with them. Sorry if you're offended but it's only an opinion.
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Hitler's regime did have a positive side for Germans & anyone considered "herrenvolk" but at the cost of everyone else. The price for those benefits was an entire generation of Germans souls & a good portion of their lives. Too high in my opinion. The most important lesson from WW2 is that there was nothing all that special about Germany, it could have been any country with a grudge looking to get even. What is that line about constant vigilance?
As for the jews declaring war on nazi Germany, after reading mein kampf, I would have too.
Me too - I've been biting my tongue so hard I won't need any lunch.:rolleyes
