best rimfire when the time comes
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Marlin 925 or savage mkII if you are going bolt action. The EE is the equipment exchange forum of this site. Scroll down and you'll see it, but you'll have to PM one of the moderators of the EE to gain access to that usergroup. Once you do you'll be amazed at the selection of used guns.
I have had good luck with my own 10/22s,but I do prefer bolt actions.I just purchased another CZ452,and to me ,they are one of the best values in better quality firearms.The Marlins and Savages seem to work fine,but I just don't care for all of the stamped parts.
EE= Equipment Exchange, the "buy & sell" forums on this site. Scroll down a little.
Bolt actions~Savage is held in high-regard for a reason. Great accuracy, great price. My most recent bolt-actions were a CZ 452 in .17 HMR, and a Norinco JW15A "Backpacker". The latter might not be the best choice for your first. If you want to drop a little more cake on a rifle than the Savages, I'd suggest CZ...as at least one other person has. Beautiful build quality. I actually sold my Savage to buy my CZ, but the decision had nothing to do the Savage's accuracy. In fact, I wish I could have afforded to keep both. Fit and finish is just a cut-above with CZ, but they're both shooters.
Dj_Squelch
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Savage Mk.II, Savage accu-trigger Mk.II, various Mossberg models, CIL/Anschutz models (semi-pricey, though), Cooey model 60 or 600, Stevens and more. I think newer Marlins are OK, but have no first hand experience with them.
Mark
I am new to the Forum and guns so I am far from an expert. I am currently waiting for my PAL and I have also been researching the 10/22's alot.
I find this thread interesting and I have to say, this is the most negative feedback I have come accross on the 10/22. Almost any time the gun has jammed (in other reviews) the owner has always blamed it on cheap ammo.
I thought everybody loved 10/22's
I find this thread interesting and I have to say, this is the most negative feedback I have come accross on the 10/22. Almost any time the gun has jammed (in other reviews) the owner has always blamed it on cheap ammo.
I thought everybody loved 10/22's
Yup.
Most CZ 452's are scary accurate right out of the box.
Full length wood is just an extra margin of coolness on an already great little gun.
There's nothing wrong with a 10-22 if you want semi auto.
(that is if you cant find a Gevarm E-1 used)
here is one more vote for Remington 597. They are accurate and somewhat elegant rifles. Even after I had to buy another receiver for mine I still wanted to revive my 597. Accuracy on par with bolt rilfes out of the box. Now I have two - one 22lr another one is 22mag.
But then again - eventually you will have a few of them 22's, so which one was first is rather rhethoric question.
Bolt action - maybe. Even cheapest and well-used one will be better than bestest 10-22 with all aftermarket parts on it.
If that is the case,you have not owned an accurate bolt action.When you can group under 3/8" at 50 yards for five shots on a regular basis,your 597 will be on par with my bolt gun.As far as elegant goes,a 597 is about as elegant as a pig wearing lipstick.
Then you don't know how to put a 10/22 together.I have owned two 10/22s that would hold five rounds in 1/2" at 50 yards.Many people wish that their bolt actions would do as good.Some will,but many won't.
Dj_Squelch
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Why not rock out a classic and very cheap Cooey? Accurate and cheap. Then if you want a semi you still have cash in your pocket to pick one up!
I love hearing the "10/22 isn't accurate" crap over & over...
It's the shooter that sucks, not the gun. Here are my very reproducible results with my stock 10/22:
Stock carbine 10/22 (circa 1980)
Burris Fullfield II 3 X 9 X 40 scope
100 yds bench rested w/little to no wind
Bulk Winchester 333 ammo
Rate of fire = approx 1 rnd/sec.
It's the shooter that sucks, not the gun. Here are my very reproducible results with my stock 10/22:
Stock carbine 10/22 (circa 1980)
Burris Fullfield II 3 X 9 X 40 scope
100 yds bench rested w/little to no wind
Bulk Winchester 333 ammo
Rate of fire = approx 1 rnd/sec.
My first .22 was a Marlin 795, I've shot 1000 rounds through it, it only jammed once, and it is quite possibly the most accurate out of the box. I also own a 597 with Arch Angel stock coming in the mail. The 597 is only there for ####s and giggles, I wanted a .22 with hi-cap mags and tacti-cool stock that was NOT a 10/22 so I went with that...but thanks to the G36 stock I am now going have to force myself to buy a 10/22.
Take 10 randomly selected 10/22's and 10 randomly selected Savage Mk.II's and test them with a number of brands of ammo. I am willing to bet that the average Savage group is significantly better than the average 10/22 group. Your particular rifle is shooting very well; they don't all do that. Certainly not the ones I have shot.
Mark
All great points
- I'd just suggest that it's "actually okay" for a first rifle to be a bolt-action repeater....
...otherwise a bit of fun is being lost......
Its really got nothing to do with putting it together properly, and if it did, Why was it not put together properly when it came out of the box? As a stock rifle, its just too fussy on ammo. Once I sold it off, I can buy whatever ammo on sale or otherwise for flawless shooting in my repeaters and levers. I fully expect that everyones experience may not be similar to mine, but at this point going back to a 10/22 would not be an improvement. I'm done with all the tinkering and jamming. I have a bolt action and a lever that work perfect out of the box with whatever ammo I shove into it and/or any combination of ammo.
I enjoyed shooting the 10/22 but the cases of ammo that came up for sale were never the "right" ones. Now I don't worry about because it all works well.
As per my quote,I was replying to:
What part of "with all aftermarket parts on it" didn't you understand?
With proper components,assembled properly,a 10/22 can be very accurate,and very reliable with many different loads.
Some people just hate the 10/22 because it's ubiquitous. It wouldn't be, if not for a reason. 10/22's also have what is probably the largest aftermarket of any gun out there.
I ran a quick 100 or so rounds through mine today, and it was flawless as usual with it's consistent diet of CCI Blazers. The CZ's stayed at home today. Why? Because I just wanted to go out and have a little fun, and nothing is more fun than the 10/22.
I ran a quick 100 or so rounds through mine today, and it was flawless as usual with it's consistent diet of CCI Blazers. The CZ's stayed at home today. Why? Because I just wanted to go out and have a little fun, and nothing is more fun than the 10/22.
easyrider604
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If you want to accessorize, best bet is 10-22.
If you want one of the most accurate and most reliable out-of-the-box semi-autos, bar-none, look into the Marlin 60. Mine has shot 5 round groups of bulk winchester dynapoint ammo into 1.5 inches at 100 meters. Almost as good as my CZ 452Varmint. ATI makes a synthetic stock for it, but no way will this tube-mag rifle look tactical.
