Beginner Semi .22?

Ruger 10/22. That is the standard beginner semi,

B.S.

Ruger 10/22 sales : 7 million
Marlin 60 sales: 12 Million
Marlin 795 sales: 5 million

The Marlin guns are more accurate and have modern ammenities like last shot bolt hold open and sling swivel studs. You can choose the Model 60 for 14 round tube fed or the 795 if you prefer a removable magazine.

Both are more reliable than the new production rugers in my experience.

Marlin Model 60 goes for about $179.
 
Just stop to think....Why are there so many 10-22s for sale in the EEs? Kinda answers the question.
This doesn't answer the question.
Why does Mcdonalds sell so many Big Macs? - Because so many people want to buy them.
Why does the EE have so many 10/22's? - Simple proportionate math, more people owned them to sell them - that's kinda how the EE works.

Nobody mentioned magazine capacity - readily available for the 10/22's are 25+ round mags

Buy a 10/22 for $249 - if you don't care for it, sell it for $200 after throwing several thousand rounds through it ;)
 
This doesn't answer the question.
Why does Mcdonalds sell so many Big Macs? - Because so many people want to buy them.
Why does the EE have so many 10/22's? - Simple proportionate math, more people owned them to sell them - that's kinda how the EE works.

Nobody mentioned magazine capacity - readily available for the 10/22's are 25+ round mags

Buy a 10/22 for $249 - if you don't care for it, sell it for $200 after throwing several thousand rounds through it ;)

wrong- if you sell it on the ee- it's at least 275 because it's been "field tested" and "special& rare"
 
I'm new to semis but.......

I am/was in a similar position looking for a .22 semi.
A good friend took me to his club and let me run 200 rounds through his modified SR 10/22 with 25 round mag which he loves.
In my experience it shot well. The feel was also good (again I'm new so take that with a grain of salt). My big problem was with the action lock. When I held the gun parallel to the ground and tried to open/close the action it was hard to use. I actually had to fight with it to engage and disengage. As a noob this was a concern.
I went to the local Le Baron's and tried out a stock 10 22 and found the same problem all be it to a lesser degree. Oddly, when I put the butt on the counter I could operate the action lock with me pinkies. Very nice. The problem is (as I understand it) most ranges do not consider this a "safe" procedure.
I have decided on the Marlin 795. No one seems to make a mag larger that 10 rounds which can be a draw back on the fun side, but the action seems (to me) a lot easier to operate with the last shot hold open. When you consider Le barons has the 795 for $140 and nickle plated 10 round mags for $15 each I don't think you can match the value.
I asked about the Mossberg too and was warned away due to poor quality.

Just my noob 2 cents
 
I believe that the number of 10-22s for sale in the EEs is due the sellers not wanting them anymore....misused? abused? wornout barrel? poor action?poor function? not as accurate as they expected? Many complaints on the 25 shot capacity mags not working well. If the gun was so GOOOD....why is it for sale?

I have guns that work very well, but I will not sell them, but pass their abundant capabilities and superior workmanship onto my next generation. I only sell when I have found a superior rifle to use. My Marlins and Mossbergs have filled the requirement. And the newest of these is a 1960 issue.
 
I also found the 10/22 release VERY difficult to operate until I learned how to do it. Now, it's a snap. My father who is 65 and has been shooting for probably 60 years also found it difficult to work...until he figured it out.

It's not very intuitive. The release on the marlin's is sent from heaven.
 
There are so many semi .22's and, so little time (or, in my case, funds)...

I adore my 64's and, take every opportunity to say it. I also have a 597...I've owned a Marlin (70) and, would love to find another. I personally, wouldn't buy a 10/22. I have no desire to dress up a .22...only to shoot it.

My 597 is truly, a fun .22. What sets it apart from any semi .22, I've been lucky enough to shoot, is that silky smooth bolt. The double guide rails are a "true innovation". I've not tested it "rigorously" (only 1 bulk box through it) but enough to suggest it is more accurate than my 50 year old Cooey 64. I have a newer Savage 64 in Stainless due in next week....will put them through their paces togther.

I think the "ultimate" formula comes from the Data from Idcurrie and, Mr. Toymaker together...
Why, if Marlin Sales have been double the Ruger (for decades) sales for semi .22's are there not twice as many Marlins for sale in the EE? I think that is obvious...

People clever enough to buy a Marlin are also clever enough to keep them....I really miss the one I had!
 
May be right...

the REALLY clever ones have a NYLON 66

Based on production numbers, years and, the lack of them in the EE...you may be right. Not just a "starter" .22...an all 'round example of a "good semi".

...I'm not clever enough to have ever owned one...not sure I'd part with one once found either. All kinds of good starter .22's that are simply not on the "new market" anymore.
 
Aww for fudd's sake.....find an old Winchester 69 or 69A, Marlin 39, Winchester lever.
You will feel good shooting one of these ole gals.
And sporting some class as well.
These are like buying a Bateman.
Shown some tlc, they will be passed down for the next few generations.
And are good accurate reliable shooters as a bonus...........
Couple of pennies worth....;)
Looky.
 
I love this site! haha....

Everyone feels soo strongly about "their" rifle and recommend it! Of course yOu would. Most people are bias...

I love my 10/22 and Mossberg Tactical .22. Years ago I had a Lakefield Mossberg 64b.. I loved that one too.

I'd tell anyone to buy one of those guns from my experience.

I think it boils down to what YOU like and feels good. Go down to the local gun dealer and see what they have.. Pick a few guns up and see how they fit you. IF you know anyone with .22s try and get out and shoot a few.

Basically though for the price of most new rifles, if you buy one and don't like it for what ever reason just sell it.

SO with that being said, buy used first, and that way you will save $$ and if you don't like it move on.... OR accumulate more .22s!! haha.

Anyway, good luck in your .22 hunting, and enjoy the sport!

Just my 2cents.
 
I love this site! haha....

Everyone feels soo strongly about "their" rifle and recommend it! Of course yOu would. Most people are bias...

I love my 10/22 and Mossberg Tactical .22. Years ago I had a Lakefield Mossberg 64b.. I loved that one too.

I'd tell anyone to buy one of those guns from my experience.

I think it boils down to what YOU like and feels good. Go down to the local gun dealer and see what they have.. Pick a few guns up and see how they fit you. IF you know anyone with .22s try and get out and shoot a few.

Basically though for the price of most new rifles, if you buy one and don't like it for what ever reason just sell it.

SO with that being said, buy used first, and that way you will save $$ and if you don't like it move on.... OR accumulate more .22s!! haha.

Anyway, good luck in your .22 hunting, and enjoy the sport!

Just my 2cents.

You've obviously never owned a Marlin :p
 
Early in this thread, I suggested the two Marlin semis.

But for the sake of fairness, I personally saw a decently accurate brand-new 10/22 (it had a regular tapered barrel) a few months ago at the POCO range. I was impressed that it was grouping about an inch at 25 meters with a typical rimfire scope. Not quite as good as my Marlin 60s which can easily do an 3/4 inch at 50 meters with Winchester Dynapoint bulk. Many things contribute to accuracy, including the skill of the shooter (not judging anybody, by the way).

I sold my 10/22 (8 yrs ago) because it could only do 4 inch groups at 15 yds, and it was wearing an Aimpoint 3000! Too bad because that was a super reliable 10/22 and pretty with its folding stock.

Perhaps I got a lemon 10/22 and the new 10/22s are consistently more accurate, who knows?
 
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