Electronic hearing protection- Peltor vs Pro Ears?Howard Leight?Sordin Supreme Pro X?

lanis said:
I shoot handguns in heavy calibres and frequently indoors.
What you are telling me is that these would have limited value for that shooting activity?
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They would be useless indoors with anything over 9mm. They're fine outside for almost any handgun short of .44 mag with porting/compensator.

Of course, they won't measure up with some of the $300+ muffs people have mentioned in this thread. That's to be expected.
 
I am looking for a good quality set of electronic muffs currently. I am concerned about hearing protection and don't want to cheap out, however, cost is a factor. Currently I shoot only at an outdoor range, and with nothing over a 9mm pistol load - however, there are other shooters there with higher pistol rounds. What is the best bang for the buck?, and how does the comfortability compare amongst brands. I don't mind ordering from the States, however, would prefer to keep it in Canada. I'd really appreciate some input.
 
OK, after waiting until my Peltors crapped out, I ordered a set of Sordin Supreme Pro X from SRS Tactical. Hands down the best money spent on gear so far. 2 days to get them and love them. best hearing protection ever.

OK edited to add (above was made from my BlackBerry), I ordered the hearing Pro's on a Thursday and they showed up on Monday before I headed to the range, I was doing the happy dance at my post office box waiting for the delivery girl to show up (Canada post showed them as delivered on their tracking page). Once I got to the range I quickly removed them from the packaging (think Prom dress off of your date to get the sense of urgency I had), tossed the batteries in and away we went. Having been a Sordin fan for years I wasn't expecting to be blown away, but, I was. I wasn't so selfish to hog them all day though, I let everyone else there try them, including some gravel road cop instructors, who were all very impressed. Compared to Peltors, well really, there isn't any comparison. The sound quality, totally natural sounding, and no clipping, blows anything else out of the water. I also tested the MP3 plug and listened to some tunes while shooting on my own later on, probably the only place I could gather up a complaint. They limit the output to 82DB, now I'm not sure what volume I listen to my songs at normally, but it's a lot louder than that. Serviceable,ting but not these are hearing protectors, not headphones, so not a big deal. With the gel packs on them, I can wear my headphones, and still get a good seal around my ears, so if I really want to listen to music or instruction while shooting, I can (yes I listen to drills sometimes, I'm a shooting geek, what can I say).
if you buy these and don't like them, send them back, they give you a full refund. But you won't, trust me.
 
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After reading through this thread I'm pretty much sold on the MSA Sordins.

The majority of people are raving about the Supreme Pro-X, but after going through the SRS website, I found the Supreme III Pro+ which is cheaper and has an NRR of - 22 which a difference of 4 dB more than the Pro-X.

Has anyone tried the Supreme III Pro+?
 
Magnum PE said:
After reading through this thread I'm pretty much sold on the MSA Sordins.

The majority of people are raving about the Supreme Pro-X, but after going through the SRS website, I found the Supreme III Pro+ which is cheaper and has an NRR of - 22 which a difference of 4 dB more than the Pro-X.

Has anyone tried the Supreme III Pro+?
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Not yet, but I'm picking mine up this week. For me, the little bit of extra bulk that they have over the Pro-X's is a small price to pay for an extra 4dB of attenuation. I still expect to have to double up plugs and muffs for indoor shooting, of course as even 22dB NRR muffs are a bit loud when there are 4 or 5 other shooters next to you on an indoor range.
 
krausb said:
Not yet, but I'm picking mine up this week. For me, the little bit of extra bulk that they have over the Pro-X's is a small price to pay for an extra 4dB of attenuation. I still expect to have to double up plugs and muffs for indoor shooting, of course as even 22dB NRR muffs are a bit loud when there are 4 or 5 other shooters next to you on an indoor range.
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Excellent! Keep us posted with once you've tried it out at the range. I'm very curious to find out which set you feel is better.
 
Just yesterday I received my MSA Sordin Supreme III Pro+ from SRS Tactical (Wow fast shipping, sent Friday afternoon from Calgary here in Ontario Monday morning) I plan on using them Wednesday evening at the club and will let you know how they work. From just trying them on here at home I think using ear plugs will be needed to keep the noise level down, but from what I have read in a few posts that is the best way of keeping your hearing anyway.

Don
 
1st report on the MSA Sordin Supreme III Pro+ with gel ear seals is for use at an indoor range with hopefully a second one on outdoor use after this weekend.

I tried them alone and I found that the NRR isn't enough for use in an indoor range when there are more than a couple of shooters and especially when someone is shooting guns that have very loud muzzle blasts. I did find that I was getting a slight buzzing noise when a shot would go off but I was able to hear 95% of the conversations going on, much more than just passive hearing protectors.

I then put in some in the ear protectors and the MSA's over them and turned them up all the way which worked well and I didn't notice any buzzing, I did find that if there was a lot of shots going off at once it was a bit hard to hear the conversations but I still could hear much more then with the standard passive hearing protectors that I had been using.

Over all with using the in the ear protection and the MSA's I think I should have good protection and be able to hear at least 95% or better of the conversations that are going on while shooting is going on and be able to hear any range commands without any trouble at all.

I would have preferred that the NRR on these be much higher but at this point that is the only thing that I would change on these, the rest is well worth it to me and I would recommend these to anyone. I found them very comfortable to wear and I think that you could wear these for a long time before they became uncomfortable.

Don
 
For anyone looking for a cheap(ish) easy to get set of earmuffs.. Look at Home Depot, yes really Home Depot. I bought a set of Ryobi Tek4 Audio Plus Noise Suppression for $69.99. They have an NRR of 25 and the active component works really well. They don't seem to "Clip" like the other ones I've tried do.

Best part is they have a rechargeable lithium Ion batter that is supposed to be good for 8+ hours (I haven't tested that yet.). They are very well balanced and seems to seal very well around my ears.

Just thought I would pass the tip on that someone passed to me.
 
there comes a point where the gunfire simply over tones the sound of people talking. too many frequency cross overs.
double plugging, is always a good idea. I'm just off to Costco tomorrow to order some custom made ones.
 
Slavex said:
there comes a point where the gunfire simply over tones the sound of people talking. too many frequency cross overs.
double plugging, is always a good idea. I'm just off to Costco tomorrow to order some custom made ones.
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I don't believe that any custom plugs are as effective at blocking noise as simple foamies from a Shoppers Drug Mart. The foamies are rated at 32dB NRR. I haven't found any plugs that perform better, but would like to know what Costco has to offer.

OTOH, my yonger son does prefer his $200 custom-made DJ plugs under his $70 25dB NRR Ryobi electronic muffs from Home Depot, so go figure...
 
Well I took the plunge and ordered a pair of the MSA Sordin's Supreme Pro-X and 2 boxes of Howard Leight foamies (one max and one laser lite, dunno what the difference is so I decided to get both).
 
What kind of NRR rating do you need to not cause hearing damage for both indoor and outdoor use? I don't think there's any indoor ranges in Fredericton, but would still be good to know.

I'm not opposed to doubling up if I have to, but obviously if it's not needed outdoor with a certain rating ear muff, then that would be cool. I have custom molded ear plugs made for when I started playing music with a 25 dB attenuator on them, but everything I've read in the hearing protection threads basically says you're screwed with in ear plugs by themselves.
 
aridan said:
OTOH, my yonger son does prefer his $200 custom-made DJ plugs under his $70 25dB NRR Ryobi electronic muffs from Home Depot, so go figure...
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Musicians ear plugs (I'm assuming they're the same thing) are just comfier to wear for extended periods of time, as well as attenuating noise levels evenly across all frequencies, so stuff doesn't get muddled. I wear mine to concerts and when playing music, and they're seriously one of the best investments I've ever made.
 
DSG03 said:
Bought a pair of these for $13 at Target Sports. Wear them under the Sordins. Extremely effective. I turn the Sordins up to 2or3 out of 5 and can hear voice very clearly. Foamies under the Sordins muffled voice to much. These don't. Great product.

http://www.surefire.com/EP3-Sonic-Defenders
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Shooting indoors with this setup I find is almost a Zen like feeling.....

:cool: I'll never use foamies again.
 
2nd report, outdoor range

The MSA's work well outdoors, I did end up doubling up with a pair of plugs as there was a fairly loud magnum rifle being shot while I was there and I just wanted to make sure that I was protected. I think that if non magnum rifles or shotguns were just being used I would have been fine with just the MSA's.
I didn't find any interference with the muffs and the stocks of the rifles I was shooting.
If you end up getting a pair I hope that you will like them as much as I do.

Don
 
I use these electronic ear muffs from busy bee tools, $29.00. The site does not list the decibel reducing number but they are much much quieter than any of the foam or silicone type that you put into your ear.

http://www.busybeetools.com/products/EAR-MUFFS-ELECTRONIC-2-AA-BATT.-REQ..html
 
Hi guys,

Buy eMuffs that have the battery compartment outside, not inside.

For example, my first pair of Peltors had the batteries on the inside next to the ear with a foam padding between the ear and batteries. Guess what? it gets hot in the summer, and it gets sweaty. Guess what moisture and salt does to batteries and connections? Yes they broke after a few years @ $250.

Next set were Dillon with batteries on the outside compartment, no problems since.

Hope it helps,
on-ca
 
My MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X just arrived (with gel inserts) oh wow, this thing is comfy! Feels great, cant wait to get out to the range.

I just wish it game with some sort of carrying bag to keep it somewhat clean. Do you guys use any sort of carrying pouch with your headsets?
 
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