Can you identify this projectile?
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.....Please in the name of everything that is holy, tell me you don't have that in your house......on second thought, you NEED to take that to someone that will make it safe like the cops! { I never thought i would utter such words, but wow!}Don't find yourself in the last "type" of person referred to in my signature....Wow, gives me the willies just thinking about it
Looks like Iw/T: INERT WITH TRACER: standard training ammo.
On the other hand, it could also be AP with Trace.
I doubt that it would contain any filling: nowhere for it to be filled into, also no fuse assembly. If you find another with a big brass fuse assembly on the front end.... keep clear.
This look about the right shape to be for an 18-pdr but there were a lot of guns about that size. Try weighing it; weights were controlled carefully.
If you clean up the base of the thing with some steel-wool, there could be something stamped there. Also, on a lot of arty ammo, there were factory markings on the SIDE of the projo, about halfway up. These generally give a factory designation, what size it is and a date when it was made.
It is a very interesting artifact.
Clean it up, check it out, learn about it, display it.
And have fun.
That's what it's all about.
BTW, the cops never 'make it safe'. They take it away from you just to protect the public from being frightened and then it ends up in one of their collections. IF it contains explosive, then the Army lays a slab of C-4 up against it and sets it off. But nobody 'makes it safe'. In this case, I think it was 'safe' right from the day it was made...... but don't drop it on your toes! It is VERY hard material, whatever it is: notice the bit CHIPPED out of the point; makes me think it is what they used to call 'shot', a solid hardened projectile used as anti-armour until armour got too thick. Tracer element generally screwed into the base.
Hope this helps.
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On the other hand, it could also be AP with Trace.
I doubt that it would contain any filling: nowhere for it to be filled into, also no fuse assembly. If you find another with a big brass fuse assembly on the front end.... keep clear.
This look about the right shape to be for an 18-pdr but there were a lot of guns about that size. Try weighing it; weights were controlled carefully.
If you clean up the base of the thing with some steel-wool, there could be something stamped there. Also, on a lot of arty ammo, there were factory markings on the SIDE of the projo, about halfway up. These generally give a factory designation, what size it is and a date when it was made.
It is a very interesting artifact.
Clean it up, check it out, learn about it, display it.
And have fun.
That's what it's all about.
BTW, the cops never 'make it safe'. They take it away from you just to protect the public from being frightened and then it ends up in one of their collections. IF it contains explosive, then the Army lays a slab of C-4 up against it and sets it off. But nobody 'makes it safe'. In this case, I think it was 'safe' right from the day it was made...... but don't drop it on your toes! It is VERY hard material, whatever it is: notice the bit CHIPPED out of the point; makes me think it is what they used to call 'shot', a solid hardened projectile used as anti-armour until armour got too thick. Tracer element generally screwed into the base.
Hope this helps.
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looks "fired" to me
I am no expert..but...it looks fired to me
The too soft metal (brass) rings near the bottom, the driving bands show the marks that they have been engauged in the rifling of a barrel.
On new, unfired projectiles, the rings wil be unmarked, and of a slightly larger diameter than the bore. (land-land diameter). Upon firing, the pressures force the round up the barrel, and the driving bands begin engaging the grooves of the barrel, imparting the spin. Basically forms a screw-like machine.
Again...no expert...
I am no expert..but...it looks fired to me
The too soft metal (brass) rings near the bottom, the driving bands show the marks that they have been engauged in the rifling of a barrel.
On new, unfired projectiles, the rings wil be unmarked, and of a slightly larger diameter than the bore. (land-land diameter). Upon firing, the pressures force the round up the barrel, and the driving bands begin engaging the grooves of the barrel, imparting the spin. Basically forms a screw-like machine.
Again...no expert...
Here is a projectile that was found approximately 40 years ago. Approx 75mm. Can anyone identify it? What was it made to do? Does it contain explosives?
Tracer rear opening?
The rifled portion has a copperish colour to it.
I can't see any parting lines where explosives or a fuse assembly would have been inserted. Only opening is the rear. I'll clean it up and look for markings.
I got it from my brother in law, he found it in the bush near a military base. He said he carried it to school for show and tell on his bicycle, and I'd guess that was well over 40 years ago.
I can't see any parting lines where explosives or a fuse assembly would have been inserted. Only opening is the rear. I'll clean it up and look for markings.
I got it from my brother in law, he found it in the bush near a military base. He said he carried it to school for show and tell on his bicycle, and I'd guess that was well over 40 years ago.
The Barnes driving bands are engraved, so it HAS BEEN FIRED. It looks like a 75mm AP round, but clean the base as suggested and you will find markings. Let me know what they are and I can probably tell you who made it and when. Just have to find my old EOD books.
Two Vs, 90 degrees apart?
Sounds like the Broad Arrow: British Government ownership mark.
When you get it all cleaned up, the driving bands will polish up real nice. Just don't polish them too much or you'l take off the actual markings here they contacted the steel bore on the way out.
The Army used to have a 13-pdr gun but they haven't been used much since the end of the Great War. Whole thing looked just like an 18-pdr but was smaller. They have a really nice one in the collection at the Museum at CFB Shilo; it is in perfect condition and was used to carry Queen Victoria's coffin during her funeral.
C'mon! Get those markings polished up! This is getting to be fun!
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Sounds like the Broad Arrow: British Government ownership mark.
When you get it all cleaned up, the driving bands will polish up real nice. Just don't polish them too much or you'l take off the actual markings here they contacted the steel bore on the way out.
The Army used to have a 13-pdr gun but they haven't been used much since the end of the Great War. Whole thing looked just like an 18-pdr but was smaller. They have a really nice one in the collection at the Museum at CFB Shilo; it is in perfect condition and was used to carry Queen Victoria's coffin during her funeral.
C'mon! Get those markings polished up! This is getting to be fun!
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I put some Permatex "Naval Gelly" on the base surface, and its slowly revealing white metal. the one V looks more like a Z now. I'll get it clean and take a nice closeup and post it for your comments. This did come from near Shilo.
I grew up on the south side of CFB Suffield. In the '70's someone err'd on co-ordinates and littered the field bordering the Base with 75mm AT projectiles. Thank god they were not live rd's.
I'd spot them from a pony when I'd be checking cattle. They came in at a shallow angle; so I'd dismount and peer in the bottom end...empty. Stand it up and pick up and throw it in the back off the truck the next time we'd be driving through.
Ended up with a good number of them piled in the junk pile.
Years later I was working rig's in "the Block" and mentioned this to Range Control at a Safety orientation. LOL, frantic phone call's ensued and an EOD guy was on the scene STAT
Range Control got pretty excited.
OP; you really ought to get a-hold of someone who knows something about EOD and have them come and dispose off it. God only know's what might lurk inside.
I'd spot them from a pony when I'd be checking cattle. They came in at a shallow angle; so I'd dismount and peer in the bottom end...empty. Stand it up and pick up and throw it in the back off the truck the next time we'd be driving through.
Ended up with a good number of them piled in the junk pile.
Years later I was working rig's in "the Block" and mentioned this to Range Control at a Safety orientation. LOL, frantic phone call's ensued and an EOD guy was on the scene STAT
Range Control got pretty excited.
OP; you really ought to get a-hold of someone who knows something about EOD and have them come and dispose off it. God only know's what might lurk inside.
For God's sake stop playing with it have it checked out first!
have it checked out first!
