AIM 124gr RN.... NOT!!!! Range report update for 124 and 147gr... Pics
- Thread starter The ROC
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I know a few competitors who have been caught out using BDX's ammo too....
Lesson for everyone that loads or even if you are buying remanufactured ammo:
- pull bullets and weigh them for an average. (even expensive match bullets have a variation of a few tenths of grains)
- Chron'y your ammo
- Calculate your PF
- Ensure you have some 'wiggle room' for those hot sunny or cold wet days where your PF isn't quite what you tested it at.
- Have fun and be sure to tip the chron'y staff
You and I must know the same shooter from alberta. Kurt made changes since then (2007) in the event the shooter used an aftermarket barrel. (as I heard that was the case). My .40 BDX 180gr ammo has never failed to make chrony,.and the last load 2 shipments I had made a very comfortable 177pf,...but it was wierd as the recoil was very easy. This was out of a tanfoglio limited custom with a lighter recoil spring.
I believe the 2007 Canadian (although a USA shooter) Standard division winner used the same BDX loaded .40 and had no issues making PF.
we are mixing things here. we are talking about bullets not ammunition. yes BDX did have some ammunition that didn't make the advertised power factor out of certain guns. However i can tell you that variances between guns is not unusual. my load makes 50 FPS more out of Cathy's gun (6 points power factor) then out of mine. As far as bullets go which was the originally thread BDX bullets run plus or minus 0.3 grains with the new ones running plus or minus 0.1. Diameter and OAL will run 0.001 of an inch.
I'm not here to tea bag anyone's product or their QC - be it loaded ammo or components. Just saying that if you are a competitor and have your equipment and ammo checked at matches you should take the initiative and check for yourself so you are not blindsided at the match (I guess just stating the obvious).
I've had odd shaped extrusions that were deformed bullets and a few non-9mm 147s in a few boxes of AIM bullets too, but out of 1000 piece boxes, I've consistantly found more that 1000 in there too, so for me at least things have worked out in the wash...
Maurice: no, it was just this last year with a junior shooter and his dad - he's on the site from time to time - It was close but IIRC we chron'yed all of his batches (of about 4500 rounds) and they were hovering around 120PF. Shiz happens - (his lot of ammo chron'yed fine out of my Glock though...must be a Glock thing...)
I agree Walter, the MGs and Kurt's new(er) production are fine bullets.
I've had odd shaped extrusions that were deformed bullets and a few non-9mm 147s in a few boxes of AIM bullets too, but out of 1000 piece boxes, I've consistantly found more that 1000 in there too, so for me at least things have worked out in the wash...
Maurice: no, it was just this last year with a junior shooter and his dad - he's on the site from time to time - It was close but IIRC we chron'yed all of his batches (of about 4500 rounds) and they were hovering around 120PF. Shiz happens - (his lot of ammo chron'yed fine out of my Glock though...must be a Glock thing...
)I agree Walter, the MGs and Kurt's new(er) production are fine bullets.
temperature and altitude will affect you velocity more than 2 or 3 grains of bullet weight .unless you are shooting all the time with the exact same conditions your velocity will very
give your self a safe margin for changes of altitude etc or some day you will be shooting for fun .not for score
give your self a safe margin for changes of altitude etc or some day you will be shooting for fun .not for score
1riot1ranger
CGN Regular
- Location
- Calgary, AB
+1 on BDX 124 gr. projectiles.
This is all I will load from now on. The price is the same as Aim and the consistency is better.
I'l never do Berrys again. I bought 4k worth and 3k of them seem to have some (30%?) that are slightly undersized... tumbling and very inconsistent performance.
Kurt can have all of my business.
This is all I will load from now on. The price is the same as Aim and the consistency is better.
I'l never do Berrys again. I bought 4k worth and 3k of them seem to have some (30%?) that are slightly undersized... tumbling and very inconsistent performance.
Kurt can have all of my business.
++++++1......I really hope he gets the 147gr bullet and ammo in production. Not likely before this summer
,..but there is always hope!! I love the 147gr ammo I have recieved from Kurt at BDX. Really flat shooting. That 147gr was either Speer plated, or Montana gold. He used another plated bullet for a special run, but has since focused on the 124gr FMJ BDX bullet.
++++++1......I really hope he gets the 147gr bullet and ammo in production. Not likely before this summer
I love the 147gr ammo I have recieved from Kurt at BDX. Really flat shooting. That 147gr was either Speer plated, or Montana gold. He used another plated bullet for a special run, but has since focused on the 124gr FMJ BDX bullet.
I completely get that he's pumping out all the 124's he can, and stopping to set up the tooling for 147's right now would cost him more than it would make for him.
Realisticly, the 125 gr bullet outsells the 147 probably 4-1. In his shoes, I'd save it for later as well. In truth, I'd push a competition 125 gr JHP/JSP out the door before worrying about the 147.
But hey, everyone has to have a dream.
We did. That's what the thread is about. Only thing is you can only weigh some to get an average. Many if not all the reply's on this thread are loading ten,twenty, thirty thousand rounds.
And this is the reason I stay away from precision shooting. Way too much work and time for me. Thanks, guys, I'll stick to shooting big game out to 400yds or use my .22LR on gophers out to 200. That's the only precision I need.
\lol,...classic zinger!
\BTW,...truck is coming in on the either the 16th or 17th.
Just in time for Spring Bang ! Beauty !
bluethunder
Member
- Location
- S.W Ontario
aim bullets
Same issues with weight variations beyond what is acceptable, tooling marks visible on bullet and cost. For the quality of product and the cost of materials compared to other bullet makers I believe AIM bullets are substandard and we are being taken to the cleaners.
Same issues with weight variations beyond what is acceptable, tooling marks visible on bullet and cost. For the quality of product and the cost of materials compared to other bullet makers I believe AIM bullets are substandard and we are being taken to the cleaners.
