Ruger's Gunsite Scout 308

Geez guys, I learned something new every day...but y'know...I'm not the only one confused.

I read these posts with particular interest, especially the distinction between clips and magazines. Unfortunately, my father-in-law has this Springfield bolt action rifle. Holds eight. about 10 years ago this wildlife officer shows up and (thankfully his rifle was empty) lets him know that he would have fined and confiscated the rifle if there were more than 5 in the magazine.

I am good friends with an RCMP constable. He quite honestly didn't know the answer. So, if they are confused...what hope is there for the rest of us?
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sobo4303 said:
Geez guys, I learned something new every day...but y'know...I'm not the only one confused.

I read these posts with particular interest, especially the distinction between clips and magazines. Unfortunately, my father-in-law has this Springfield bolt action rifle. Holds eight. about 10 years ago this wildlife officer shows up and (thankfully his rifle was empty) lets him know that he would have fined and confiscated the rifle if there were more than 5 in the magazine.

I am good friends with an RCMP constable. He quite honestly didn't know the answer. So, if they are confused...what hope is there for the rest of us?
:(
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If in doubt then just run a 5 rounder when hunting.
 
sobo4303 said:
Geez guys, I learned something new every day...but y'know...I'm not the only one confused.

I read these posts with particular interest, especially the distinction between clips and magazines. Unfortunately, my father-in-law has this Springfield bolt action rifle. Holds eight. about 10 years ago this wildlife officer shows up and (thankfully his rifle was empty) lets him know that he would have fined and confiscated the rifle if there were more than 5 in the magazine.

I am good friends with an RCMP constable. He quite honestly didn't know the answer. So, if they are confused...what hope is there for the rest of us?
:(
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There are differences between game laws and the federal firearms law. For example, in the field a waterfowl gun must be plugged to accept no more than 3 rounds (two in the magazine) yet there is no firearms law requiring a shotgun magazine to be plugged to 2 rounds. I've never heard of anyone being charged for hunting with an unaltered Lee Enfield or Garand, but then I live in Manitoba.
 
sobo4303 said:
Geez guys, I learned something new every day...but y'know...I'm not the only one confused.

I read these posts with particular interest, especially the distinction between clips and magazines. Unfortunately, my father-in-law has this Springfield bolt action rifle. Holds eight. about 10 years ago this wildlife officer shows up and (thankfully his rifle was empty) lets him know that he would have fined and confiscated the rifle if there were more than 5 in the magazine.

I am good friends with an RCMP constable. He quite honestly didn't know the answer. So, if they are confused...what hope is there for the rest of us?
:(
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You're father in law's rifle was an M1 Garand semi, using the 8 round enbloc clip, not pin-able. Many provinces have exemptions for it, as does federal law.
 
Ardent said:
You're father in law's rifle was an M1 Garand semi, using the 8 round enbloc clip, not pin-able. Many provinces have exemptions for it, as does federal law.
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Nope...trust me I know the difference. It's been 15 years since I last held that rifle. It is a BOLT action in 30-06. I recall him telling me that it was an old (modified) Springfield. It has a really large magazine chamber (top load) and can hold (8 or 9) rounds. He has had it since the early '60s. :D

Tell ya what though, when I visit him next, I will take a close look at it and provide detailed specifics.

But please don't insult me by telling me it's a Garand. I own several semi's, bolts, lever and now a pump action. I KNOW the difference. :mad:
 
"timsesink For anything combat related a semi is far preferred and for hunting it isn't quite accurate enough"

Should be more than accurate enough for hunting, if Ruger does their job. The 77 isn't the reputation of the 700 say, but it should be more than accurate enough for the hunting. Idea behind the scout rifle was that it could break clays in the air close up, and still hit out at 300-400 yards, in trained hands.

"timsesink and theres a hundred other guns out there which would do a better job,"

Problem with the better combat guns out there is that they are often highly controlled up here. At the fun or practical level this thing lets a person dive into one of those things that shows up all the time in magazines, and not get their door kicked in. Though I suppose to some this is a black gun and might eventually get too much attention.

"As well the GSR was designed for the gunsite school which is a COMBAT shooting school."

There is some truth to that since Gunsite today may or not be the same as when Cooper was there, and this thing is more combat than the original scout was. In Cooper's day he also taught safari prep courses, and while he was known for his pistol doctrine, he actually believed he was more a rifleman than a pistol guy. His attitude to how much the scout is military is pretty much right in the rifle. It was designed to be all purpose, equally at home in certain combat roles, and in the field. For the most part it is pretty much a field/hunting gun. I'm a big believer in the format, but at the same time it is hard to argue that modern optics and platforms haven't passed it by to some extent. But until those AR based eotech type guns are huntable up here this may be as good as it gets. And I don't personally want one in the field anyway.

My main reservation with the GSR is that it may not be quite Scout enough, weight and barrel length seem to be misses, but the weight and handling stuff really needs to be evaluated in person. I emailed Epps, and they seem in the clouds on availability. They say their supplier is negotiating with Ruger to develop a no flashider version. Which is interesting since it already exists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrWAr4hLBA&feature=related
 
Pepperpopper said:
"timsesink I emailed Epps, and they seem in the clouds on availability. They say their supplier is negotiating with Ruger to develop a no flashider version. Which is interesting since it already exists.
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Yes, Popper, the non-flash hider model exists, but the Canadian distributor does not have an export permit to bring the model into this country. This is part of the negotiation process.

Also, Ruger has reported that the non-FH model is not yet in production, and was developed as a prototype only. This is also part of the negotiation -- to mass-produce this variant for international shipments.

As we have noted to many of our customers seeking these guns, please keep a watchful eye on our website. Once these rifles do become available, they will be posted there, along with full descriptions and prices for each model.
 
Harrier .45 said:
Yes, Popper, the non-flash hider model exists, but the Canadian distributor does not have an export permit to bring the model into this country. This is part of the negotiation process.

Also, Ruger has reported that the non-FH model is not yet in production, and was developed as a prototype only. This is also part of the negotiation -- to mass-produce this variant for international shipments.

As we have noted to many of our customers seeking these guns, please keep a watchful eye on our website. Once these rifles do become available, they will be posted there, along with full descriptions and prices for each model.
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Harrier, What website are you referring to?
 
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