H&k g36

I heard all this mickey mouse bulls**t about price when I bought my UMP .45. For $7000. Not the most expensive gun I've owned, but it was a healthy deterrent against "shiny-kit-syndrome" impulse purchasing.

Then I experienced even more of the same nonsense when I sold it here for the same price.

Some fool was muttering in the black rifles forum about how my advert would be on the EE for months @ $7000. I think it took 3-5 days from listing to "I'll take it". A good portion of that time was filtering through emotional pleas to consider trades for the required number of goats and chickens to balance the "Norinco and two Gevarms" offers of people who knew they'd never afford one. Can't blame them for trying. This is seriously cool stuff to own in your personal arms locker.

In point of fact, it actually took more days to transfer the money than it did to find a buyer. In the end, I had bought it for $7k. I shot it for a year. then I sold it for $7k. It cost me nothing to own for a year. And they go for $9-10k now.

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Just a picture or two of my very non-imaginary friend. It's cheaper than a quad and every time I look at the picture I wonder (like every other gun I have ever sold) why I ever got rid of it. Oh well. What have YOU done for money lately?



So if the pricing is SO out of touch with reality, why do they continually seem to sell, and sell well?


Oh. Yeah. Because the people buying and selling them have real jobs and can appreciate relative concepts like rarity. Personally I like other firearm families better. Particularly SAN. Pragmatically speaking, I'd take a CQB 5.56 over a UMP .45 any day of the week. But apples to oranges and all that...

But that jealousy! That jealousy twinge some folks seem to get over H&K really is a bit of a kick. Anything that can produce THAT much whinging is going to be worth something.
 
I was down at the HK outlet store last week. They were all out of the UPMs in 45 but had 3 in 9mm. Also had a couple of the HK AG-36 launchers there for about $350. I looked at one of the G36Ks, but they had a price tag of $1500 so I passed. They did have a few beat up MP5s, but were near the $1000 range, and for the money, I ordered one of the MP7s, and a couple cases of ammo.
 
koldt said:
I was down at the HK outlet store last week. They were all out of the UPMs in 45 but had 3 in 9mm. Also had a couple of the HK AG-36 launchers there for about $350. I looked at one of the G36Ks, but they had a price tag of $1500 so I passed. They did have a few beat up MP5s, but were near the $1000 range, and for the money, I ordered one of the MP7s, and a couple cases of ammo.
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I'll trade a unicorn and two dragons for that MP7 :p
 
koldt said:
I was down at the HK outlet store last week. They were all out of the UPMs in 45 but had 3 in 9mm. Also had a couple of the HK AG-36 launchers there for about $350. I looked at one of the G36Ks, but they had a price tag of $1500 so I passed. They did have a few beat up MP5s, but were near the $1000 range, and for the money, I ordered one of the MP7s, and a couple cases of ammo.
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I'll trade you the Mona Lisa I pulled out of a cracker-jack box and my $2200 Lamborghini for your MP7.
 
koldt said:
That's fantastic, then he should be able to produce one of the plethora of cheap G36P, G36E, rifles then, shouldn't he?

Besides, that's what makes CGN great, is the free market place, not the complaining about someone else's asking price. The great thing is, we are allowed to ask what we want, not what someone else says what your stuff is worth. YOU decide. If it sells, great, if not, then it's up to the owner to decide what to do about the price. It's called capitalism.

I'm still in line, with my pocket of money, for all those cheap G36 rifles.

Oh BTW, I looked at an HK gun one time, so I've got an idea what they are, and value, as well. And Rich actually has touched one, so he too is an expert.
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Never said there was a "plethora of cheap G36" rifles ... read my message again. The point was there were a few here and there coming in to Canada as they are available in small numbers on the world commercial market. You can verify the information by the date code on some of the G36s in Canada that are of semi-recent production year and too new to be from the original batch. I never said they were cheap either, just not worth (disclaimer: IMHO) 20K right now.

On another topic these kind of responses are the reason I do not like to post too often, people start being rude with their comments. I only post when I feel like I have something to contribute ... otherwise I love CGN for all the (good) information that is on it.
 
elektrobug said:
Everything that is wrong with CGN right there in that sentence.
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elektrobug said:
Never said there was a "plethora of cheap G36" rifles ... read my message again. The point was there were a few here and there coming in to Canada as they are available in small numbers on the world commercial market. You can verify the information by the date code on some of the G36s in Canada that are of semi-recent production year and too new to be from the original batch. I never said they were cheap either, just not worth (disclaimer: IMHO) 20K right now.

On another topic these kind of responses are the reason I do not like to post too often, people start being rude with their comments. I only post when I feel like I have something to contribute ... otherwise I love CGN for all the (good) information that is on it.
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Well your first statement is what highlited the conversation and could be easily percieved as "rude". So this might be a case of "you started it", and now don't like getting back in kind.

Feel free to tell us what your G36 is worth.
 
koldt said:
Well your first statement is what highlited the conversation and could be easily percieved as "rude". So this might be a case of "you started it", and now don't like getting back in kind.

Feel free to tell us what your G36 is worth.
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Touche, prehaps I was a bit harsh with the first comment and I apologize for making a judgment. It was not directed at anyone and was just a statement. Should have put a a smily face after the first statement to lighten the mood and the blow. LOL

I too believe in free market economy and something being worth what someone will pay for it but you also have to look at historical data (unless the item is unique) for a valuation and as I said 20K is not it.
 
elektrobug said:
Touche, prehaps I was a bit harsh with the first comment and I apologize for making a judgment. It was not directed at anyone and was just a statement.

I too believe in free market economy and something being worth what someone will pay for it but you also have to look at historical data (unless the item is unique) for a valuation and as I said 20K is not it.
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I appreciate your reply.:)

However, and I think I'm not speaking out of turn for Rich, I think he's saying, he ain't selling his G36P......

And I've tried.
 
koldt said:
I appreciate your reply.:)

However, and I think I'm not speaking out of turn for Rich, I think he's saying, he ain't selling his G36P......

And I've tried.
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Well then for his sake I hope there is no one with 20K looking for one. LOL

Should I be posting some items from my collection with huge prices just to get some attention? :)
 
1. I really like my real G36P and don't want to sell it.
2. I'm serious when I say $20 000, the price reflects that I don't want to part with it.
3. Don't care if anyone thinks it's worth it or not.
4. For all the HK experts, I think the Bundeswehr pays alot less, like $800 or so with optic, that's what the rifle is really worth.
5. Price is simply supply and demand, these are rare and non-restricted, don't like it, go buy one somewhere else. Have fun searching.
6. If you can't afford it, too bad for you. There's lots of kit I want but can't afford...AG 36....Kolt.....Swiss Arms Sniper.....list goes on.....go post and search somewhere else then.

Rich
 
Since koldt is encouraging me to be dikhead and I embrace the free market economy ... lets play it!

If there is an interested party in a G36 I will sell one to them for $19,000.

I guess at this point the thread should be moved to the EE section. LOL
 
elekrtobug,

Like my HK Pistols but really love all of my HK rifles. I've got one of every operating system / era that they have ever made. Hopefully some day you can get some of the rifles, you'll make your collection complete.

PS: Thanks for the tip on the Prohibs...It's been frustrating me for years now.

Rich
 
Rich LPS said:
elekrtobug,

Like my HK Pistols but really love all of my HK rifles. I've got one of every operating system / era that they have ever made. Hopefully some day you can get some of the rifles, you'll make your collection complete.

PS: Thanks for the tip on the Prohibs...It's been frustrating me for years now.

Rich
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Problem is I am in Toronto (GTA) and dont get to shoot rifles very often, good ranges are a full day excursion. If I lived somewhere more rural I would have more rifles. No chance of me owning any of the roller-delayed rifles in Canada as I dont have that class of license ... well except the SL6-7-HK### rifles. Unless I can track down a G41 in semi and RCMP does not class it a varient (which it is not). :D

Also in my mind there is no such thing as a complete collection, always in progress. Too many unique HK items out there. Even the grey room in USA is no where near a complete collection.
 
koldt said:
No photos, so you don't have 'em.


Here's an old photo of some of my crap:

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God damn, that's some nice stuff!

The things I would do for an HKG3...

But yeah, as mentioned, the G36 at $10,000 is only that expensive because of market forces. Very limited supply + high demand means high prices. I had to explain this exact sort of thing to a guy in California regarding why Norinco M14's are so much cheaper in Canada than the U.S.
 
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