Zombie Apocalypse (MATCH IS FULL!!!)

Will you shoot the Zombie match

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The organizers learned a bunch from this match.

1) 300m is a LONG way to run/walk 43 times in one day specially when the heat is over 32 degrees.

2) Some people SUCK at patching their fair share!!

3) Some people SUCK at backing their fellow club members when it comes to running matches. That will result is a slight alteration to EESA's Sign up process.

4) Matches are like child birth.............when you run them you swear it will be the last one. Afterwards.........you start planning the next one.

5) when hunting zombies.......GET YOUR HITS!! It is telling that many of the top winners were also EESA members who helped run the match. Many of us shot the bulk of the stages SUNDAY morning. We were exhausted which in theory slowed us down but........we also got our headshots as a possible result. In killing zombies headshots are vital!
 
stormbringer said:
2) Some people SUCK at patching their fair share!!

3) Some people SUCK at backing their fellow club members when it comes to running matches. That will result is a slight alteration to EESA's Sign up process.
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So, the people that do showed up... SUCK... and the ones that didn't... SUCK also?

As a EESA member I can say I had no idea volunteers were needed for IPSC. I thought it was a self run deal.
 
Cool I finished 4th in standard, not bad for a old fat guy....:) it was my birthday after all on Saturday!

Are you sure about the score Storm looks a little fishy to be only three points behind
you....Maybe a recount is in order.... :)
 
civicbam said:
So, the people that do showed up... SUCK... and the ones that didn't... SUCK also?
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Huh??

Come again?

Some people do not know that EVERYONE patches!! It is elementary to the sport. GMs patch, newbies patch.

The ones who showed up and participated were great! The ones who are parasites on the efforts of others suck.

I think you missed out on the word "SOME" which is pivotal to my point.




civicbam said:
As a EESA member I can say I had no idea volunteers were needed for IPSC. I thought it was a self run deal.
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Matches that are "self running"? Hmmmm I do not know how that can work. Stages must be set up, targets reset, patches applied, stages torn down, score data entered. If nobody does those things then there is ZERO way a match can run. You watched the match (and took some great pics) so I would think that would be obvious to you.

Or are you speaking of self run by EESA IPSC members only? If that is the case it would logically follow that the monies raised would be used by IPSC alone. That is not a route I would suggest as being beneficial to the club as it leads to Balkanization of the club as has happened to far to many clubs. Now a match of the size of Zombie fest should in theory be capable of being run for the most part by the IPSC section. If we do another Level III match I would hope that a much larger portion of the overall membership would come out to help considering the scope of the project.


By members I was actually referring to EESA IPSC members as opposed to EESA members in general. We did have some great help from a few EESA non IPSC members and their efforts truly go beyond the mark. They provide counter balance to those EESA IPSC members who did not carry their fair share of the workload....or sadly none at all in some cases.

It is one thing to not take a day off work to set up or organize the match in any way shape or form. Not everyone can take a day off of work to take part. That is understandable.
It is another to do none of the above,but in addition not patch, and then not only not stay for tear down but LEAVE before your squad is even done,a huge faux pas in anyone's book.

All that aside I am pleased with how the match ran in the end (hence the childbirth analogy above). I guess I just do not understand how some people think. But that can be taken by adjustments in my way of dealing with those same people in the future.

One should make allowances for those who treat others (me included) with respect and repay that respect. It is only logical.
 
stormbringer said:
Stuff John said.
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yes self running... Thanks for the compliment and yes it's obvious now that's help is needed. I think you missed out on the word "HAD" which was pivotal when I talked about not knowing help was needed from the membership. I'm new to all this IPSC stuff and thought it was a group that came in and was self contained.. You meant IPSC EESA members.. good to know.

I can't make it to club meetings usually and the net calander blows so I miss a lot of info. it seems.

IDK maybe I'm the only member that doesnt know this stuff.. but i doubt it.

All that said I look forward to future matches and have some ideas for shooting some cool pictures..maybe some video ideas also.
 
euxx said:
Storm, you should make up your mind. It's not like it was a sport event and you already admitted it was more like a fun shooting...
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Fun or not stage props need to be reset, and targets need to be patched. It doesn't matter if it's the National Championships or the weekly practice night these things need to be done for the match to run.

If everyone pitches in then the job goes quickly, if not everything backs up.

I can speak from experience, it gets old fast when it is the same three to six people doing all of the work all of the time. The only people that should not be patching after the range has been declared safe are the RO/SO, Score keeper, the person that just shot, and the next shooter up. The rest of the participants should be up and ready to patch.

There is an interesting thing that happens at matches... The morning always starts out with lots of people patching, and quickly trickles down to the RO/SO and score keeper patching by the end of the day. That is not right.

All that being said, did I get out and patch every shooter, no, it happens that you can't some times, it's just the way it works, but I did do as much as I could, to the point where I was patching and resetting the stage I just shot. This was after it had been scored of course.

The Match Fairies don't do all of this, a match does not happen because you want to shoot this weekend, a match happens because a few dedicated people get out and MAKE it happen
 
euxx said:
Storm, you should make up your mind. It's not like it was a sport event and you already admitted it was more like a fun shooting...
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Ok what the F is your particular defect?

Seriously?

Is your grasp of Canadian Idiom that limited?

IT WAS A FUN SHOOT!

It was a FUN SPORTING EVENT

As such things needed to be DONE.......and that includes PATCHING!

How is it that you cannot seem to grasp that concept?

Now I know youre experience in running matches is limited to a club level ICS match but seroiusly..You cannot be that out of touch with reality!! or can you?
 
Storm, you are missing the point. You can't expect a hard work from people who came to have fun. :D

Besides, you can't blame people who wasn't at your event. :kickInTheNuts:
 
I can't recall, but was/is there within the BB course a section on match ediquette ?

There are several universal truths... One of which is that no matter what the shooting event there are those who, for whatever reason do not lift a finger to help.

It's the same guys. We all know who they are. We allow them to continue doing their thing.

I used to think some were deliberate in their action.. or rather inaction, but as the years go on I'm beginning to think that some people really are unaware that what they do pisses people off... Or, they are aware and are okay with it.

'Seems manners are a thing of the past with some...
 
euxx said:
Storm, you are missing the point. You can't expect a hard work from people who came to have fun. :D
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Ah you see there is the crux of the problem. This was an EESA event. As such I would have thought (incorrectly it would seem) that the IPSC EESA section members would see it as their responsiblity nay their DUTY to help out.
I can tell you that there is no way on this planet I would leave a match early knowing that my "friends' had been slaving for some time to run the match leaving them to keep working. That is what I am struggling with. I am just not made that way. Heck even at a match at clubs I am not a member I have often stayed behind if I am last squad to help tear down.
True there is a great core group of EESA IPSC members who put in their best...........heck one member did worked his arse off and did not even finsih the match as he had a confilcting schedule.
If people want to go to matches just to "have fun" then that is fine they can be treated with exactly the same attitude when they come for help from others (like me). As in sorry.........that sounds like work to me and I am all about "FUN". Right?

euxx said:
Besides, you can't blame people who wasn't at your event. :kickInTheNuts:
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You seem to be missing out on the fact that my ire is directed at the actions of people who WERE THERE!!!
 
I was patching and setting up steel at all stages, even the 300 when I wasn't shooting anymore. I actually asked one guy who never patched the whole day if he was injured and he said he paid good money to come shoot and have fun, not have a heart attack!

I say make two price points for matches. One for shooters willing to help and a higher price for the ones that just want to shoot. Maybe have them wear certain colour wrist bands or something showing which category they are in. LMAO
 
667 said:
I can't recall, but was/is there within the BB course a section on match ediquette ?

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Well there certainly is in my courses.............I guess I need to stress it even more.

I even hand out a nice form (one of the best and perhaps only good things to come from VP)

That includes this portion.
9. Where’s Jeeves? Help To Patch And Reset Targets:
At major National and International matches, range assistants are often hired to handle patching
and resetting of targets. However, this is rarely the case at local matches, where everyone in the
squad is expected to patch for the other members of the squad. Unless you’re the next competitor
to shoot, or the guy after him, you should help reset the stage without being asked to do so.
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cbabes said:
I was patching and setting up steel at all stages, even the 300 when I wasn't shooting anymore. I actually asked one guy who never patched the whole day if he was injured and he said he paid good money to come shoot and have fun, not have a heart attack!
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PM SENT!!!!!


cbabes said:
I say make two price points for matches. One for shooters willing to help and a higher price for the ones that just want to shoot. Maybe have them wear certain colour wrist bands or something showing which category they are in. LMAO
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Actually I think that some matches might just be "full" for some shooters until they learn their lesson.
 
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