The NEA rifles...who else is in the "Seen 'em" club?

Any chance you have some pictures of your products and price. The TSE website is updating (?) and I have no other means too check out your goods.



I need an upper by the way; 10.5" or 14.5" will suffice please.
 
smak_daddy said:
I'd be very suprised if a un upper made of 7076 contained a catastrophic *KABOOM* much better than a 6061 upper. The pressures we are talking about are enormous. 3x more strength means very little when we are dealing with forces that are measured in multiple orders of magnatude in power above what the rifle was designed for.

If she's going to blow, she'll blow.
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you can find pictures of Kaboomed modern AR and M16 made of 7075T6. most people walked away with minior injuries.
 
Neither series of aluminum will contain a kaboom. 6061 is fine as the upper and lower are not load bearing parts of the AR rifle. Everything that is, is made of hardened steel.
 
Well if no one has had a Norinco AR go out in a blaze of glory then I’m sure these will be more then fine. Just a thought! . . . Also I’m giddy and I WANT ONE NOW. . . . So crank up some speeds and feeds, let’s get this train rolling. . .
 
greentips said:
you can find pictures of Kaboomed modern AR and M16 made of 7075T6. most people walked away with minior injuries.
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And what about the plastic and composite guns? Hasn't been a rash of explosions that I've heard of...

I think some people need a refresher on the design of the AR platform and how it operates.

If our choice of materials is of concern then that's the customers perrogative. However none of our clients that have preordered have had any concerns over our choice.

- Dave
 
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Gunnerlove said:
Really, no stress on the upper. So what are my 20" HBAR and optic hanging off of?
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That's exactly what they are doing; hanging off it. Your bolt and barrel is the gun.. The pretty stuff around it is just a shell and a place holder for the components. Should anything go bang outside of the bolt & carrier, 7075/6061/plastic, etc.. will go with it. It's a semi-auto controlled pipebomb with one end cap off it.


smartbomb said:
Very unprofessional on behalf of both retailers to be arguing on an internet forum.
But hey... competition is good for everyone. Keep arguing. With that said, I can't wait for these rifles to be ready to order.
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Thats true and I'm sorry we played into it. Everyone gets defensive when others speak of their product in negative ways.

We'll be doing some video of destructive testing for all the people concerned about 6061. ;) I'm even going to sacrifice an Armalite Upper for comparison.

- Dave
 
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What is the cost difference between producing the reciever in 7075 vs 6061? I'm guessing you chose 6061 purely as a cost saving measure.
 
NavyCuda said:
What is the cost difference between producing the reciever in 7075 vs 6061? I'm guessing you chose 6061 purely as a cost saving measure.
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As stated previously, it was chosen as the material of choice by our Aerospace engineers and the required end result. Not cost savings. We have lots of places we could have cut costs but didn't.

It may come as a surprise to many of you based on the past market of AR's in Canada... but we didn't have to cut costs to provide what we have here and still come in under $1000 on our base model as stated. We actually priced our rifle and then looked at what we could ADD and still stay under that mark, hence why you see as many additional upgrades as you do.
 
I'm just starting to think I need an ar, I'm going to try to figure out which model I need and I'll be ready to go when these become available. Anyone know of a dealer in Durham that is going to sell these? I'll take made in Canada any day.
 
North Eastern Arms said:
That's exactly what they are doing; hanging off it. Your bolt and barrel is the gun.. The pretty stuff around it is just a shell and a place holder for the components. Should anything go bang outside of the bolt & carrier, 7075/6061/plastic, etc.. will go with it. It's a semi-auto controlled pipebomb with one end cap off it.
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I am not worried about it blowing up. I also have a pretty good grasp of how ARs work.

I am wondering how much additional flex there is going to be when fired prone and off support 6061 vs 7075. I know heavy walled uppers and lowers don't add anything but weight but is the Milspec upper really 40% over built.
 
We'll be doing some video of destructive testing for all the people concerned about 6061. I'm even going to sacrifice an Armalite Upper for comparison.
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Having actually tried to blow up a rifle I will bet that destroying an AR upper will be a lot more difficult than you think.

I have experienced an overload and blown case in an AR and the damage was limited to a wrecked extractor. The bolt and barrel extension will contain all the pressure. IF anything blows it will be the case and/or the barrel. The upper will never really see any serious pressure.
 
Suputin said:
Having actually tried to blow up a rifle I will bet that destroying an AR upper will be a lot more difficult than you think.

I have experienced an overload and blown case in an AR and the damage was limited to a wrecked extractor. The bolt and barrel extension will contain all the pressure. IF anything blows it will be the case and/or the barrel. The upper will never really see any serious pressure.
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I did it once. I purchased bulk powder labeled as BL C2 which turned out to be closer to W296. The resulting explosion split the upper receiver into three pieces (top and sides). The bolt carrier bottom was fragmented, the extractor destroyed, but the bolt and barrel extension remained together. The powder seller took the parts and exchanged them for a new rifle so I don't have the bag of parts anymore unfortunately.
 
There is alot of he said she said in reguards to the type of material used in the construction of this new rifle. I personally think that the material used in the NEA rifle will be ok from reading on the net. I wonder what type of testing will be used to prove to the consumer that these are quality rifles. Will the testing be similar to this? See link.

https://danieldefense.com/TortureTest
 
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