Dominion Arms Backpacker

bandicoot said:
The Backpacker is a great gun ... and is on my list of guns I won't ever sell.
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I have to agree. I liked it so much I spent the time and money to it threaded for chokes. Then I installed a set of sights on it. In all I spent more on this than I did on the gun, despite the sights being second hand. Its worth it though because with a full choke installed, this thing throws pretty nice patterns. I use it for gophers. It shoots way better than a person would think it should and its so easy to carry around.

I also like that it falls all the way open when I hit the catch. You don't have to force the action open. But it locks up tight. Its not pretty. But its highly functional.

Somebody should make themselves some money by getting more of these guns in.
 
bandicoot said:
Presto - a prohibited firearm! The Backpacker is a great gun for the simple fact that you can't cut a barrel down to 13" and is on my list of guns I won't ever sell. At $150, it wouldn't really be worth it...
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The minimum over all length for a non restricted is 25 inches right? Still pretty short.
 
Pimpley Bum said:
The minimum over all length for a non restricted is 25 inches right? Still pretty short.
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For a semi-auto - 26". But not for hand-operated.
If it reaches that length by reducing - yes. That's the key - it has to be reduced to that length by folding, telescoping or some other means.
If it never was longer since manufacture - int's non-restricted.
Example - Henry mare's leg is 25", it's non-restricted.

If anyone is confused about which is which, click this link:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/rp-eng.htm
and see the section 'Definition of a Restricted Firearm'


Actually reading this: Definition of a Prohibited Firearm - a rifle or shotgun that has been altered to make it less than 660 mm (26 inches) in overall length; I have a question. Am I going to create a prohib by swapping 18" and 15" bbls on a pistol grip Grizzly? That would be silly and here's why: suppose one owns two Grizzlies - one with pistol grip and 18" bbl, and another with full stock and 15" bbl.

Registration cert for a full stock 15" gun says that bbl is shorter than 18" but does not specify the OAL.

If swapping barrels on 870 platform was considered a modification, then they would have expected me to change registration cert every time I would put a 26" bbl on the full stock 15" gun to blast clays. Otherwise what, can I be arrested for being in possession of a gun which does not match reg cert? This is ridiculous.
 
Pimpley Bum said:
Jesus, we should add "eliminate the regs" to the list of requests the firearms community has of the government.
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Fixed it for ya! And to the previous poster, if you put the pistol grip on and it shortens the Grizzly to less than the non-restricted length, you've changed it to a restricted and have 30 days to report the change to the RCMP. No one really wants to see what happens if you shoot it in shortened form with the law watching and not at a range during that time, though.
 
LOL, Milsparro

Where did you get that part about 'restricted'? It is definitely a prohib if shorter than 26".

But my question was: does CFC require a change to registration cert if I put a 26" barrel on a gun which cert says 'shorter than 18 inch'? That would be hilarious. I guess every modification must be reported to CFC, so if I am reading that right, then going to the range in the morning I must report that the gun now has barrel over 18" and coming back home I must notify them that it is back to 15" configuration. And get them to issue me certificates every time. They will probably want the gun verified every time? ROFLMAO.
 
Pimpley Bum said:
Jesus, we should add "simplify the regs" to the list of requests the firearms community has of the government.
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If the barrel has been SHORTENED after leaving the factory "by sawing, cutting or other alteration or modification" to less than 18"/457mm, that forces the firearm into the "prohibited weapon" class.

NOTE: The firearm is NOT forced into the "prohibited weapon" class (i) if it left the factory at the below-18"/457mm barrel length,


(ii) if it was refitted with a factory-made or even gunsmith-made barrel at the below-18"/457mm barrel length

UNLESS the barrel was at one time a longer factory-made barrel that was shortened "by sawing, cutting" etc.—in which case it falls back into the "prohibited weapon" class.

If the firearm ARRIVES at the "less than 26"/660mm in overall length" condition by "sawing, cutting" etc., then it is forced into the "prohibited weapon" class. If it left the factory at that too-short length, or arrived at that too-short length by the addition or substitution of factory-made or custom-made parts that are NOT SHORTENED FACTORY-MADE PARTS, the limit does NOT apply. It is unrestricted, UNLESS it is semi-automatic AND centrefire

CURRENT LAW CC s. 84(1) "restricted weapon" (b):

If the firearm ARRIVES at the "less than 26"/660mm" overall length by "folding, telescoping or otherwise" INSTEAD OF by "sawing, cutting" etc., it is forced into the "restricted weapon" class. If it left the factory at the too-short length, or arrived at the too-short length by the addition of substitution of factory-made or custom-made parts that are NOT SHORTENED FACTORY-MADE PARTS, the limit does NOT apply.

So no sawing or cutting.

All laws apply to CENTERFIRE ONLY!!!!. Rimfire all bets are off. use a 50 rnd drum mag all you want:ar15: lol
 
happykal said:
If the firearm ARRIVES at the "less than 26"/660mm in overall length" condition by "sawing, cutting" etc., then it is forced into the "prohibited weapon" class. If it left the factory at that too-short length, or arrived at that too-short length by the addition or substitution of factory-made or custom-made parts that are NOT SHORTENED FACTORY-MADE PARTS, the limit does NOT apply. It is unrestricted, UNLESS it is semi-automatic AND centrefire
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where are you quoting from?

Pimpley Bum said:
That makes absolutely no sense. What's the difference between having a smith shorten it or buying kt from the factory like that?
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it's availability thing - they want fewer guns in our hands, not more.
as if prohibition of sawed-off barrels ever stopped a crook!
 
haha49 said:
Well it was because they copyied a company that made a pistol version it was bascily a pistol grip attached to the single shot gun and they said since it was registered as a pistol in the states it's a pistol up here.. it was one of the wtf moments.. since they used the same action is how they put it was one of the cases that leave you scratching your head..
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Well I hope they don't get any ideas with the Rossi Ranch Hand! It's called a pistol in the US too!
 
What is the actual overall length of the Dominion Arms Backpacker?

Can somebody measure their gun for me please?
 
" It's just over 28" OAL. "

Thanks.

Does anyone know how that compares to the Dominion Arms Outlaw and the 8.5 inch Grizzly?

If anyone happens to have all three; It would be great to get a side-by-side photo to compare their profiles and overall lengths.
 
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