What would you buy for a starter .223? Remington 700 Tactical or Savage 10FP

Remington 700 Tactical or Savage 10 FP

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Ryan500

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Hey CGN sharp shooters! I've been looking into starting on a somewhat long range rig, right now I have access to 300 and 500 yard ranges. I've decided I want .223 as the caliber since I won't hunt, just shoot paper with it.

So with the two choices above only what would you pick? I'm looking at them since they are in my price range and look sharp. Both have good reviews but whats your pick and why?

Thanks.
 
Never shot either but the savage comes with a tighter twist so you could stabilize heavier bullet better. 2" longer barrel so also slightly higher velocities. SPS tactical has had some poor reviews on the "flimsy" stock. I have handled one in the store and it easily flexes. I am no expert by any means though.
 
The Rem. VTR has a 1 in 9 twist, good for 75gr. bullets. Had a savage 12, just got the VTR, both are nice. I like the feel of the Remington better.
 
You can get almost as many after market parts for a Savage short action as the Rem so I would go Savage.

I like the accu-trigger better. In fact I like a tuned run of the mil Remington trigger better than the new externally adjustable ones.

I have also noticed more times than not a Savage will shoot better than a new Remington. It seems Remington is all over the map with their QC. One Remington will shoot like a dream and the next might only be worth the donor action. Savage seems to be more consistent as of late.

If you do go with Savage do some research on their new run of 10FP's. Savage has had two different bolt spacing on their actions and one is only a blind mag gun and the other has a DBM. I have one of the blind mag actions with a McGawen barrel on it and it is one of my favorite guns. Just one more thing to think about.
 
i like the my Remington 700 sps tactical because of the short 20" barrel, and it's accurate so I'm happy with it. Also has adjustable trigger.
 
I voted Savage because I have owned 3 of them now and they have all been excellent shooters. The accutrigger is amazing. I will NEVER buy another Remington product again after reading all the horror stories and mixed reviews of their garbage product, I took a risk and bought one. Even though it was just a .22, it was a pos lemon straight out of the box.
 
I voted savage , I think if it was an older model rem I would have went that way but rem seems to have gone downhill the past few years imo.

I used to like the rem better but lately have become a fan of the savage , quicker to rebarrel no need to machine the bolt recess and with the floating bolt head design they shoot good without truing.

I know a few guys shooting savage in f-class and are doing well with them , also with more parts becoming available for the savage why not.
 
My 10FP was shooting 1/2 moa (or better sometimes) out of the box with my pet load, 77gr Sierra Match Kings, 24.2 gr Varget, Fed 205M match primers. Keep the sear clean on the accu-trigger and it's a winner. The trigger is great, and the sear dimensions are very exact, so it has to stay clean, and it will break beautifully, no creep no crap.
 
Just starting to work up a Savage FLP with a better chassis (then the OEM stock). Can't wait to test it with the "boomers"!
 
Funny thing. I've been online for about (15) years now and I can't think of one occassion where I haven't heard that Remington's quality control is good. It always seems to be the haters that say these things.

I've owned both and I've had (12) 700's to (1) Savage. Incidently it was an 110 FV in .223. I'll own another Savage one day but I can't say exactly when. I like some of their newer offerings. However, I'm not overly impressed with the current Remington line up.

You want to make sure you're comparing apples to apples in terms of features and overall price. There's a lot of guys trashing SPS's here because of their stocks, yet those stocks are no better than what comes on a standard Savage 12 FV. Resist the temptation to buy the most inexpensive rifle available. You'll be much happier with a rifle that has a few options that you can enjoy without having to worry about upgrading right away.

If it were my money, I'd strongly consider a Savage Precision Carbine in .223. 20" 1:9" barrel, decent stock, detachable mag., with the Accutrigger. Roughly $875.
 
My starter rifle is a Savage 12 VLP DBM, 1:7" twist. At 250 yards with quality components I've shot a few 1/4 MOA 3 shot groups, all of them (even the garbage loads) less than 1 MOA.

Total cost from Elwood Epps was about $900.
 
I like Remington's and Savages and don't think you could really go wrong with either as a starter. Used to be the case that there was a lot more aftermarket stuff for Remmy but now there is a whole bunch available for Savage so both are well catered for. FWIW my first precision rifle was a Savage 10FP in .223 and I installed it into a Choate Ultimate Sniper stock put an EGW 20 MOA rail on it, an Elite 4200 and TPS rings. It shot very, very well with 69g SMK's and though now sold, the current owner reports that it still shoots really well.
 
Haagen_Dazs said:
My starter rifle is a Savage 12 VLP DBM, 1:7" twist. At 250 yards with quality components I've shot a few 1/4 MOA 3 shot groups, all of them (even the garbage loads) less than 1 MOA.

Total cost from Elwood Epps was about $900.
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Try (5) or (10) round groups and let us know what ya think...;)
 
Here's one more thing to consider, customer service. I have no experiance with Remington's so I can't comment on there customer service, but Savage!!!! I've had contact with Savage on two occasions. In both cases they went way beyond what I expected to make me happy. I have a Rem 7615 and had a .223 HB 700 years back. I love my pump and I loved my bolt, but if I'm buying another bolt gun, it'll likley be another Savage.
 
Have always had custom rigs built on Rem M 700 actions...however...with factory rifles off the shelf have always had better luck with the higher end savages (heavy barrel in mcmillan and hs and laminate stocks) never had one that did not shoot inside an inch and often inside 1/2 inch.

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