Depends on the size of your head and length of your neck. I've never been beaten up as badly by any rifle as much as a Ruger model 77 in 300 win mag.
My arms was numb for hours afterwards.
"Recoil is more of a push than a smack..."
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Depends on the size of your head and length of your neck. I've never been beaten up as badly by any rifle as much as a Ruger model 77 in 300 win mag.
My arms was numb for hours afterwards.
Never been pounded numb by a rifle, however, never met a .300 mag that encouraged more than a shot or two neither.
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It seems that people experience recoil in different ways. It takes time and dedication to become hardened to the extent that the recoil from a powerful rifle can be ignored; and becoming indifferent to recoil should be the objective of anyone who owns a powerful rifle. You should be able to shoot that rifle effectively without recoil effecting your marksmanship or rate of fire, even if you need a break after only 2 rounds. Should the rifle hurt you, it will take longer to master it, so never shoot more rounds at one time than you can manage comfortably. The rifle needs to fit you and needs a quality recoil pad that is large enough, and soft enough to spread the recoil over a large surface area of your shoulder, without fully compressing. The rifle needs to be heavy enough that the recoil impulse takes longer to pass. This perhaps best answers the push vs punch question. The shorter the duration of the recoil, the sharper and more unpleasant it feels.
Never been pounded numb by a rifle, however, never met a .300 mag that encouraged more than a shot or two neither.
At the time that Ruger kicked the crap out of my shoulder and arm I was using a Sako AV 300 winny as my everyday hunting rifle and recoil didn't bother me at all for 20+ rounds. The ruger wasn't mine, we went hunting with our regular guys and he brought it for his 22 year old son who couldn't hit paper at 25 yards and the fellow asked me to get it on paper for the kid. It took me 6-7 shots to get two touching at 25 yards for the kid could hit th epaper plate once. My shoulder was so bruised up the bruise went down my arm to my elbow over the next few days. The kids shot a moose at about 50 yards the next day.
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My 8lbs 375RUM launching 260gr Acubonds @ 3020fps, 300gr A-Frames @ 2800+ fps and 350gr TSX @ 2520fps smacks...
It smacked so hard with the 350gr TSX that I reduced the velocity to 2450fps now it just smacks...
CC
Its amazing what .5-1 grain more can do for felt recoil eh? I know I'm not in the "boomer" class of rifles but my .338 Federal while I was doing load work up with 225 SST's was shocking how much the recoil jumped with only .5 and 1 grain increases.
Summed it up in which way? My .458 is a wimpy little push with 500 grain factory loads, but is more jarring with maximum 450 grain handloads.
Never been pounded numb by a rifle, however, never met a .300 mag that encouraged more than a shot or two neither.
I've shot my friends .300 RUM, and honestly thought it wasn't that bad. I was expecting it to kick like a mule, especially since it only weighed 6lbs or so, but I was surprised. Took about 10 shoots from it with no issues.
My .338 Federal was in a T3 Lite and that little ####er booted so hard it was down right nasty to shoot. I flinch just thinking about it.
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You can play on this
hxxp://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp
and compare loads. You really can feel the difference in recoil velocity. A fast recoil stings more than a slow shove even if it is a harder shove.
Try out a 200gr bullet at 2900fps, 66gr powder in a 6.5 pound rifle, I can tell you from experience that breaks scopes routinely, and very few can shoot well at that recoil speed and energy.
hxxp://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp
and compare loads. You really can feel the difference in recoil velocity. A fast recoil stings more than a slow shove even if it is a harder shove.
Try out a 200gr bullet at 2900fps, 66gr powder in a 6.5 pound rifle, I can tell you from experience that breaks scopes routinely, and very few can shoot well at that recoil speed and energy.
Ooh, a manly man!
The lightweight .458 summed it up as a hard punch. Two rounds and I felt it for a couple days.
I know I wouldn't like that combination. Snappy and violent!
What you are talking about is felt recoil. The 45-70 load you mentioned actually has slightly more recoil energy and recoil velocity. The recoil impulse is about the same for both.
So from a simple physics standpoint, given the loads mentioned (in the rifles mentioned) - the 45-70 has greater recoil. What it "feels" like may be a different story.
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I sure would not consider a .378 with no muzzle break a push. It is a very fast smack.
Ooh, a manly man!
The lightweight .458 summed it up as a hard punch. Two rounds and I felt it for a couple days.
Shortly after I got my .416 Rigby I did the hotrodding thing on the reloading bench trying to turn it into a .416 Weatherby. I hadn't even put a scope on it yet, which dropped the weight some and the factory recoil pad would have made a good hammer. Anyways, every shot at that level would numb my arm all the way down to my fingertips, then the numbness would leave and I would wish it would have stayed. Fifty shots over a couple days was all I wanted of that insanity. A return to book loads, a heavier stock and a real pad calmed it right down.
By comparison the .458 is fun to shoot. I let my kid shoot it once in a while, and nobody ever gets him mixed up with Chuck Norris.
I'm going to rechamber it to .458 Lott one of these days.
There you go .... best to try a lotta guns, I guess, before making blanket negatory statements, still ... never met the .300 yet that could earn the love a .375H&H deserves by birthright.
Thats the key, to shoot it well.
Were I a game animal, standing exposed at 350 yards away from a hunter, well I'd be hoping the nimrod was pointing a .300 .... not a .375, my way.
