Benchrest Competition Videos

rpollock

rpollock

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I have created a youtube channel for viewing the BR videos I have collected over the last 2 years. Check it out at:

www.youtube.com/user/benchrestcanada?feature=mhee

There are a dozen videos of the very best BR shooters in the World. Videos are from the NBRSA Nationals in 2010 in Kansas City, The 2011 World Championships in France, and the 2012 NBRSA Nationals in Midland Texas.

George and Vera Carter, Dave Abbott, and Dan Henderson are Canadians competing at the highest levels..

You will see lots of wind flags, as BR is essentially a wind reading contest at this level. This is all 100/200 group shooting, where the time limit is 7 minutes to form a 5 shot group. Rifles are all single shot, almost all shooting the 6PPC.

You will also see some unlimited rifle videos, where you have a 12 minute time limit to shoot a 10 shot group. Again almost all are 6PPC. These are usually return to battery rifles as the rules dictate the rifle cannot be attached to the bench. Again the challenge is in reading the wind, even with an unlimited rifle.

Enjoy.
 
im not sure im impressed by guys using a bench rest to shoot out to 200 yards. kind of takes the skill out of it dont you think? i feel weird enough using a rear bag to steady my gun. seems like it takes some of the skill out of the sport.
 
Uchi,

You are trying to shoot through the same hole at 100/200 yds. The rules allow the bench and the rests as part of the equipment. You don't have to use them if you don't want to. I can assure you it is very difficult to shoot all your shots through the same hole at 100/200 yds even with all the associated equipment. The skill is not in holding the rifle, it is in reading the wind, and using the wind to push your shots into the same hole.
 
warrenb said:
isn't that a line from Shania Twain! :rolleyes:
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no she said something like im not impressed with guys who make less money than me, lol.

i understand the idea behind it, and in that situation it adds accuracy no doubt, to me it would be the same as attaching a camera to a gun and using computer controls to shoot it. to each their own :)
 
uchi said:
no she said something like im not impressed with guys who make less money than me, lol.

i understand the idea behind it, and in that situation it adds accuracy no doubt, to me it would be the same as attaching a camera to a gun and using computer controls to shoot it. to each their own :)
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I'm not quite sure you actually comprehend the level of skill and accuracy required to be a competitive BR shooter.

Next time your shooting at 100y, try to shoot 5, 5 shot groups averaging less than .250", with a time limit, with or without the "lowly regarded" rear bag.... Report back with your results....
 
uchi said:
im not sure im impressed by guys using a bench rest to shoot out to 200 yards. kind of takes the skill out of it dont you think? i feel weird enough using a rear bag to steady my gun. seems like it takes some of the skill out of the sport.
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Try out Rpollocks BR clinic. Then you can preach your opinion.

I tried the clinic and its tougher than one would think. Add the timeline and you have your work cutout for you. Your skill in wind reading is where the challenge is. You believe you are an excellent shot. So be it.
 
Hey, shooting at somebody else's target can happen to anybody :redface:

I've watched one of the guys at my club who shoots bench rest. Former ON Provincial champ as I recall. Guy named Switzer.

Anyway, I've seen enough to realized the time, preparation and skill needed to be really competitive at the BR game. I've shot against him in matches at our club and it's not even a fair fight. Fun to watch though.

Preparation in equipment and ammunition, ability to read and recognize wind conditions and to be patient enough to wait for it to be just right....all under a time limit.

It is a different shooting skill than F-Class, TR, Precision etc, but a skill none the less.
 
Why don't you mention my group at 400? Stevo liked it.

And glad you never screw up. I do.

Plus further out you went, your groups opened up, didn't they?

For those who haven't heard, Mr Albertacoyotecaller doesn't like me because I "bad mouthed" a professional shooting course that we took together. So he "knows" me. ;)

As for the BR clinic I attended, the smallest group that day was .232. AN amazing group size for the wind that was blowing that day. I finished third overall in the amateur competiton that day.

Group size average was .5100. .5113. and mine was .5613. I admit averages are not overly impressive untill you know what the winds were like.
 
Yes your group was nice at 400. I was amazed after seeing your other shooting abilities earlier on. Yes my groups opened up later on. Not from lack of skill, but lack of ability of the bullet choose to perform at the distance further out.

I don't care for you not because you bad mouthed the course. I dislike you because you lack the internal strength to say what you want to say when you were asked to, instead you choose to say something from the safety once distance was gained. Man up.

So the guy isn't impressed with the video, no need to preach when you are an amateur yourself.

Greg
 
Budweiser360 said:
I'm not quite sure you actually comprehend the level of skill and accuracy required to be a competitive BR shooter.

Next time your shooting at 100y, try to shoot 5, 5 shot groups averaging less than .250", with a time limit, with or without the "lowly regarded" rear bag.... Report back with your results....
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i dont want to turn this into a pissing match. i just think the bench rest takes alot of the skill out of shooting. i understand the concept behind it and why its used. i see how much more accurate my shots are with the rear bag and i can only imagine how much more accurate they are with a vice clamping your gun to a table. but it also seems as if it takes alot of the skill away from using the gun. seems like you clamp it down, adjust for wind drop etc and shoot away. you dont really have to deal with flinch or breathing as much because a vice is holding the gun in place. i know ive buried 3 shots and made one large hole at 100 many times and on the 4th i could flinch or sit in a different way and the gun will hit a half inch or more off target. thats all im getting at, no offense to the guys who bench rest shoot, i understand theres still skill required to read wind and adjust for drop especially over uneven terrain
 
Max Owner said:
Try out Rpollocks BR clinic. Then you can preach your opinion.

I tried the clinic and its tougher than one would think. Add the timeline and you have your work cutout for you. Your skill in wind reading is where the challenge is. You believe you are an excellent shot. So be it.
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i dont doubt that, but locking your gun into a vice takes away the biggest skill required for shooting a gun, holding it consistently the same way to achieve the same result. again, not trying to bad mouth br shooting, to me it just seems like you take all the skills the f class guys use and then clamp the gun in and not worry about it moving because of user error.
 
rpollock said:
There are no vices in BR.

BR itself probably qualifies as a vice, or at least an addiction!
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i realize that, i tried a bench rest once to help sight in my rifle and it clamped the barrel in place and the gun didnt move while fired. it was nice to see how accurate the gun was while fixed in a position and results were repeatable, i just think i prefer the more realistic aspect of shooting. you dont see the military snipers carrying bench rests with them :)
again, this isnt intended to cause an issue with the bench rest guys, lots of respect to you for the skills you have with reading the wind loading ammo etc etc.
 
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