Rusty Rifle

My friends Remmy 700p (Police model??) with heavy barrel had problems right off the bat. As soon as he unboxed it, the gunsmith at the store mounted his scope immediately.(leupold vxII 3-9x40 brand new too) I watched as he locktited all the screws and torqued them down properly. All was good. We went to the range that afternoon, and after a box of ammo, we were actually hitting the target in a shotgun pattern. I was baffled. I checked everything to make sure something hadn't come loose. Then we tried a second box of a different ammo, and it was even worse.
I thought that maybe the barrel somehow had leading or something in it from the factory test shots, so I took out my borelight, and low and behold...what do I see???
A shiny barrel WITHOUT ANY RIFLING in the bore. Now that what I call quality control. Remington just gets better with age.



I'd like to know how they managed to do that. Hammer forged barrels are formed around a mandrel, with the inside and outside dimensions being formed at the same time. The length doubles during the process. They would have had to use a blank mandrel.
 
Having being the first one to have chimed in on this; I'm going to throw a log in again. I don't think that Remingtonsquality control is anywhere near what it used to be, but a lot of this can be controled with the right protectant.
I soak all of my guns with Birchwood Casey barricade; it's truley a priotectant finish unlike a lot of the oils that have been bentioned here, and unlike a lot of the thicker protectants, it gets into the places that truley matter, because it's runny, and it consists of molecules that are small enough to not only get into the joints of the metal, but firmly attach to the molicules of the metal itself.
About once a year, I totally disassemble all of my guns, and spray all of the parts down with Barricade, then I wait a couple of minutes, and wipe off the access.
Mike
 
dont buy remington, rust problem solved. it may also shed some light as to why the exchange forums are flooded with 870s and 700s. a brand new fire arm thats maintained properly should not rust from rain and humid basements.
 
I can tell you that my Marine Magnum does not suck

Have a Mossy Mariner and it is exceptional. Haven't really cleaned it yet. Through all conditions, it looks like it did the day I bought it.
That is the only firearm I haven't modified, and I suppose that may be telling......
 
dont buy remington, rust problem solved. it may also shed some light as to why the exchange forums are flooded with 870s and 700s. a brand new fire arm thats maintained properly should not rust from rain and humid basements.

Right... because that has nothing to do with the fact that they are the most popular... and look at the prices... what does that tell you....

Lower level rem's as with many lower end firearms will rust... just use remoil or your rust preventative of choise and keep 'em oiled up.... problem solved
 
Eezox. Please do yourself a favor and get Eezox, it is by far the best rust inhibitor on the market, according to many tests anyhow. For Rust inhibition or prevention there are very few products that can match it.
 
I have boughten few remingtons over the last couple of years and sold them all. They all had various problems.

They've change hands so many times over the years and now produce absolute garbage.

The same venture capitalists bought marlin and now their quality is totally ruined.

The same group owns dodge/chrysler. I'll let you make your own conclusions about those fine vehicles ;)
 
Eezox. Please do yourself a favor and get Eezox, it is by far the best rust inhibitor on the market, according to many tests anyhow. For Rust inhibition or prevention there are very few products that can match it.

I've just been using hoppes gun oil for the outside on this and all my other guns - might be worth trying something different - maybe the birchwood case barricade mentioned.

I didn't pay a huge amount of cash for the gun but I hardly call it cheap. I own an H&R (which was cheap) that has a nice clean finish and hasn't rusted yet.
 
I don't even know how many Remingtons I have anymore, and I dare anyone to find rust on any of them. Good ole G96 still kicks ass, and is a dry film so the guns aren't a oily dust gathering mess.
 
I have Remingtons, including an 870 express. Never had a rust problem. I do use Breakfree CLP as my oil of choice. Rain or snow, no rust yet.

I'm going to do that tonight when I get home from work and see how it holds up this weekend. Until now I've just been using a bottle of hoppes ELITE.

I'm taking the 870 slug barrel hunting this weekend, because I've always wondered what happens when 1oz slugs meets deer face at 25y. I'm guessing it'll be messy.
 
I've just been using hoppes gun oil for the outside on this and all my other guns - might be worth trying something different - maybe the birchwood case barricade mentioned.

I didn't pay a huge amount of cash for the gun but I hardly call it cheap. I own an H&R (which was cheap) that has a nice clean finish and hasn't rusted yet.

I also have an H&R.... and although it doesn't rust the finish looks almost painted...cheesy
 
I had a mossberg 535ats that I forgot in a soaked foam guncase over night. The barrel rusted and even pitted a lil the reciever not even a water mark. My inline muzzleloaders no matter what I do the bores rust and 1 sks I have has a lil rust on it but I use cheap surplus ammo and refuse to clean it untill it stops. So far around 1500 rounds and its still going strong (that's a test for me to see how a cheap russian gun holds up) I clean the hell out of my other. None of my other guns rust and I use sheath/barricade for protection. Cheap model guns just aren't built like they used to be. I bought a used sxs that was rusted up and I cleaned it with 0000steel wool and barricade. Fixed it right up altho after close to 2x 5gallon pails of used primers there isn't a lot of bluing left
 
I have used / owned lots of Remmy's over the years however I will have to agree that they have steadily gone down hill. My 870 will rust almost immediately used in the same conditions that my older 1100 & 1187's are used in. The older guns hold up WWAAYY better. I can use my 1100's & 1187 all day in the rain shooting a few hundred rounds of Trap / Sporting Clays with no worries. My 870 however has to be immediately dried and treated or it will end up being used as a sh*tty boat anchor PDQ!

The blueing / finish on the new Remingtons (say 1999 & up) are certainly lacking to say the least! So much so in fact that I will not be buying any other remington products any time soon.

Regards,
 
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