So here I am sitting in the eastern townships listening to two seperate packs callin back and forth behind my sheep farm and I begin to wonder what the best trick would be to get these buggers out in the open in the early season. They are running the woods like mad but I don't see them in the fields much. Will the critter in distress calls work well or do they still have plenty to eat in the woods until it gets really cold and snowy???? I'm just learning so any tips are mucho appreciated!
early season yote tactics
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heavyBullet
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Are you anywhere near Dunham? During deer hunting I heard more yotes than I ever have before. I am just started dog hunting myself, and I wonder how many deer a pack of dogs can kill in a year, because between all the years they have given out doe tags and now all these coyotes it could explain why I only seen one deer the week I was hunting.
Am looking forward to hearing the responses to your question.
Am looking forward to hearing the responses to your question.
I also only saw one doe all week and without a fawn during our shotgun season... I would not shoot her,... our deer numbers are suffering and we have to kill coyotes every way possible.
superd222
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I also only saw one doe all week and without a fawn during our shotgun season... I would not shoot her,... our deer numbers are suffering and we have to kill coyotes every way possible.
We had a visit from the MNR during the controlled hunt. The CO's were saying the deer numbers were way down. Last year, it was possible to purchase up to 7 tags in a few WMU's. This year, they reduced it to one additional tag. This is proof positive the numbers are down.
I'm planning on shooting as many 'yotes as possible this winter.
I don't think many biologists would say that coyotes are a major factor in deer density. They certainly do take deer, but disease, and most of all winter conditions, are far more likely to affect population densities than coyotes.
I'm not saying don't take what opportunities present themselves, but just don't rationalize it as "saving the deer". You likely aren't.
I'm not saying don't take what opportunities present themselves, but just don't rationalize it as "saving the deer". You likely aren't.
tips for coyotes
these are things i've learned.
1. be very cautious of your scent and the wind. coyotes are very good with taking off if they smell something foreign.
2. walk in to your stands and hide vehicles from line of sight. (remember where you parked and don't shoot your truck...don't ask)
3. if nothing comes within 20 minutes of your first call, nothing is going to come. as your leaving your stand keep your eyes open though, move out slowly.
4. choose positions to stand that give you adequate cover and good shooting lanes. if your hunting with a partner, don't spread to far apart from each other, it will only increase your scent area.
5. don't over use your locator in one stand. i find two locator calls followed by a series of cotton tail works best for me.
6. IMO all you need is a 3x9, coyotes can come in fast and if your fiddling with your AO you are probably going to be cussing.
7. magpies coming in to your calls is a good thing, its means your calls are believable. typically they are "bird dogging" and a coyote(s) is probably in the area.
8. the most success i've had calling is in the morning and the evening.
9. coyote calls can be heard up to a mile away depending on wind and environmental factors, keep your stands atleast 2 miles apart.
10. have a whole lot of fun! coyote hunting is the BEST hunting there is! the action is intense and fast. your doing the deer a favor and they coyotes kill bunnies.
these are things i've learned.
1. be very cautious of your scent and the wind. coyotes are very good with taking off if they smell something foreign.
2. walk in to your stands and hide vehicles from line of sight. (remember where you parked and don't shoot your truck...don't ask)
3. if nothing comes within 20 minutes of your first call, nothing is going to come. as your leaving your stand keep your eyes open though, move out slowly.
4. choose positions to stand that give you adequate cover and good shooting lanes. if your hunting with a partner, don't spread to far apart from each other, it will only increase your scent area.
5. don't over use your locator in one stand. i find two locator calls followed by a series of cotton tail works best for me.
6. IMO all you need is a 3x9, coyotes can come in fast and if your fiddling with your AO you are probably going to be cussing.
7. magpies coming in to your calls is a good thing, its means your calls are believable. typically they are "bird dogging" and a coyote(s) is probably in the area.
8. the most success i've had calling is in the morning and the evening.
9. coyote calls can be heard up to a mile away depending on wind and environmental factors, keep your stands atleast 2 miles apart.
10. have a whole lot of fun! coyote hunting is the BEST hunting there is! the action is intense and fast. your doing the deer a favor and they coyotes kill bunnies.
Hunting conditions for eastern coyotes are a little different. For example, in Eastern Canada the forests are thicker and the density of coyotes is much less.
Regarding point #3, I would wait 30 - 45 minutes before moving to your next stand.
Regarding point #9, since your hunting area is likely not as opened as in the prairies, you may only need to move 500 yards.
Two very good resources are:
1) The forum on http://predatorhuntcanada.ca/
2) The book sold on this website http://www.dogbreathcoyotecalls.com/ is specifically written for Eastern hunters. For $10 it's well worth the gas and time you will same by speeding up the learning curve.
Good luck and have fun,
Radiohead
Regarding point #3, I would wait 30 - 45 minutes before moving to your next stand.
Regarding point #9, since your hunting area is likely not as opened as in the prairies, you may only need to move 500 yards.
Two very good resources are:
1) The forum on http://predatorhuntcanada.ca/
2) The book sold on this website http://www.dogbreathcoyotecalls.com/ is specifically written for Eastern hunters. For $10 it's well worth the gas and time you will same by speeding up the learning curve.
Good luck and have fun,
Radiohead
heavyBullet
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Very true, last year I called one in and did not realize it till he was close enough for me to hear him panting. He was coming in so fast I just turned around and he was there, I had to yell at him since he was so close and was only able to get a shot at him after he ran back about 30 yards. I quickly realized a 3x9x40 scope( my deer rifle) was not to handy in the thick woods. Going to have to buy a low power scope for this years hunting.
Eastern tonships of quebec i assume... I am in easter ontario... If you want some help let me know... We can go out for a day... I keep my brother in laws sheep farm clear... Take a couple there each year
This thread is interessting ,when I lived in alberta we seen lots of yotes and shot a few but here in N-B they are harder to see because of the thick cover.
There are lots of coyotes in my area we often here them howling in the woods behind my house ,but they are hard to call in .
I am going to try and get out maybe on the weekend now that deer season has finished.
They seem to be more vocal here in the late afternoon a few hours before dark.
There are lots of coyotes in my area we often here them howling in the woods behind my house ,but they are hard to call in .
I am going to try and get out maybe on the weekend now that deer season has finished.
They seem to be more vocal here in the late afternoon a few hours before dark.
I know where Dunham is. And my hunting season was full of squirels.
The thing about deer populations is not that the yotes are really draining the numbers (yet) but when you live in a fairly small valley with not a big property within, it doesn't take long for the deer to just leave. The numbers of deer are getting low enough that when they decided to avoid an area, they really can.
I know they are out there but the SAAQ wouldn't mind if they were all gone.
The thing about deer populations is not that the yotes are really draining the numbers (yet) but when you live in a fairly small valley with not a big property within, it doesn't take long for the deer to just leave. The numbers of deer are getting low enough that when they decided to avoid an area, they really can.
I know they are out there but the SAAQ wouldn't mind if they were all gone.
If you have to bring em in through the hardwoods try a quiver critter... They are murder on yotes... When combined with a good call
What is that a call or a motorized critter decoy.
Our coyotes are much bigger in Ontario than in the praries.. must be some wolf lineage im sure.
One does not need to be a biologist to realise the deer numbers are down and its not disease but the scurge of the coyote.
No ground hogs for years now, no rabbits, no fawns by their otherwise healthy mothers... Hmmm I need a biologist to tell me what to think?...
heavyBullet
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I hear ya on that, I hunt on a postage stamp size piece of land, and by the third day into the season there is not a deer to be seen. To make my pain worse, during black powder(doe only) a big 8 pt. trotted past me in the middle of a field, looked right at me, and slowly kept going, almost like he knew I could not do anything.
Our coyotes are much bigger in Ontario than in the praries.. must be some wolf lineage im sure.
One does not need to be a biologist to realise the deer numbers are down and its not disease but the scurge of the coyote.
No ground hogs for years now, no rabbits, no fawns by their otherwise healthy mothers... Hmmm I need a biologist to tell me what to think?...
I hunted ruffed grouse in the same area for five year in a row with very good results each season. For the past 3 years, there's nothing left excepted coyote tracks everywhere. Coyotes populations are definately on the rise in southern Ontario.
