Dlask 9" and 12.5" 10/22 barrels legal?!

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Can anyone talk to the legality of putting a 12.5" Dlask 10/22 barrel on a stock 10/22? I know you can't modify it yourself under 18.5", and the only exception to this is that it is acceptable if it came that way from the factory. When they said "factory" I assumed they meant from the original "Ruger" factory, and not a 3rd party factory like Dlask or NEA. If Dlask and NEA are making these barrel lengths, does this mean that it is acceptable to put them on a stock 10/22, and still keep it non-restricted? Or would this make it necessary to have it reclassified into a restricted firearm?

Thanks dudes!
 
Wrong Way said:
As long as the overall length (not including flash hiders, etc) remains over 26.5", the gun remains non-restricted. There is no min. barrel length for rimfires, just OAL requirements.
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Wow! Can't believe I didn't realize this earlier. I guess when the RCMP says "factory" barrel, they mean from "any" factory! Thanks for the reply. Guess I won't be picking up that 10/22 compact model when I can pick up the cheapest stock 10/22, and upgrade the barrel to a Dlask 12.5 inch BB and wrap it up in a Hogue overmould stock FTW! :cool:
 
Wrong Way said:
As long as the overall length (not including flash hiders, etc) remains over 26.5", the gun remains non-restricted. There is no min. barrel length for rimfires, just OAL requirements.
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Be careful with that. You cannot cut any barrel to less than 457mm (17.99)" long, rimfire, centerfire, whatever. But barrels manufactured to shorter lengths are legal. The OAL limit is actually 660mm (25.98"), not 26.5".


Mark
 
the RCMP computer system only has certain (and commonly used) barrel lengths listed.
i worked with them to add a 10" (254mm) measurement to the system as it wasn't present at the time. this took about 2 months but they were great to work with and happy to help.
 
turbo-minivan said:
the RCMP computer system only has certain (and commonly used) barrel lengths listed.
i worked with them to add a 10" (254mm) measurement to the system as it wasn't present at the time. this took about 2 months but they were great to work with and happy to help.
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Yes. Of all the people that control and oppress me, they are the most pleasant.
 
Wrong Way said:
As long as the overall length (not including flash hiders, etc) remains over 26.5", the gun remains non-restricted. There is no min. barrel length for rimfires, just OAL requirements.
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106mm (4.14") is min. bbl length, and as mmattockx pointed out its 660mm oal. IIRC an 8" bbl would be a little over 26" oal on a factory birch stock....
 
mmattockx said:
Be careful with that. You cannot cut any barrel to less than 457mm (17.99)" long, rimfire, centerfire, whatever. But barrels manufactured to shorter lengths are legal. The OAL limit is actually 660mm (25.98"), not 26.5".


Mark
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Ummmm....we are talking about manufactured barrels....that was VERY clearly identified in the OP.

The 26.5" is a better #, unless you want to bet your firearms ownership on whether the judge believes a but pad counts towards OAL or not. ;)
 
Wrong Way, the law states 660mm, anything over is gravy period. Turbo-minivan do you know if there is an 8" 10/22 in there, or would a guy have to go through the same process you did for that?
 
Wrong Way said:
The 26.5" is a better #, unless you want to bet your firearms ownership on whether the judge believes a but pad counts towards OAL or not. ;)
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it dosnt matter what the law states it matters the officers interpratation of the law when your pulled over with it, even if its 100% legal and takes a week to sort out we hear these stories every day on CGN ;)
 
supernova said:
Wrong Way, the law states 660mm, anything over is gravy period. Turbo-minivan do you know if there is an 8" 10/22 in there, or would a guy have to go through the same process you did for that?
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you would have to call and just ask what they have listed for available barrel lengths in the system. if its not in there, you may have to do what i did. i do remember one of the lengths being restricted, yet there were shorter lengths than that which were nonrestricted. someone must have registered that length as restricted and now its in the system like that.
 
turbo-minivan said:
you would have to call and just ask what they have listed for available barrel lengths in the system. if its not in there, you may have to do what i did. i do remember one of the lengths being restricted, yet there were shorter lengths than that which were nonrestricted. someone must have registered that length as restricted and now its in the system like that.
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Where are you guys getting this stuff from? My reg certificate says "less then 470mm". Thats all you need as far as I know as long as your over 26 OAL. Why are you complicating things?
 
because when you call it in to make it legit, they will ask what the new barrel length is and the OAL so they know how to classify it, or reclassify if needs be. and when you give them some random barrel length, it will need to match what they show as available in there system, otherwise they will assume you have cut it down and when your new card shows up and it is listed as restricted, youll be pissed, all because you didnt ask a few more questions.

yes, the card will only say "less than 470mm", but the girls on the phone only know what is in the computer, so if its not in the computer, they wont know what to tell you. stupid?... yes. trust me, i spent lots of time talking about it with them.
 
Wrong Way said:
Ummmm....we are talking about manufactured barrels....that was VERY clearly identified in the OP.

The 26.5" is a better #, unless you want to bet your firearms ownership on whether the judge believes a but pad counts towards OAL or not. ;)
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I wasn't dumping on you, just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this that doesn't understand the different treatment that manufactured barrels get versus cutting it down yourself.

Can anyone cite a case where a glued or screwed on butt pad was not counted in the OAL of the firearm? This seems like tinfoil to me and I am not exactly a skeptic when it comes to believing the many ways police and the courts can and/or have abused gun owners over grey areas of the firearms act.


Mark
 
supernova said:
106mm (4.14") is min. bbl length, and as mmattockx pointed out its 660mm oal. IIRC an 8" bbl would be a little over 26" oal on a factory birch stock....
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106mm is min barrel length on a pistol, on a rifle there is no min barrel length, so if you wanted a 2" barrelled rifle you are good to go (seen an Ar with this in canada)
 
mmattockx said:
Be careful with that. You cannot cut any barrel to less than 457mm (17.99)" long, rimfire, centerfire, whatever. But barrels manufactured to shorter lengths are legal. The OAL limit is actually 660mm (25.98"), not 26.5".


Mark
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Another example of the MONUMENTALLY STUPID firearm regulations in this country.

F*cking idiot politicians and their f*cking idiot cronies.

-M
 
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