525 yds

lol

Almost as far apart as 2 provinces can be...Where I live, there are no Muleys. There are laws regarding dogs chasing/running deer. If it's a pet you love, keep it close. Running deer is a biggie(or, baddie) here and, could lose a dog doing it outside of "season" (which is on here...)

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525 is a nice long shot...good job!!!
 
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Thank you all for the feed back, I was talking about this to a hunting friend of mine and he as used a shock collar on a few of his dogs as well as a few he and his wife have boarded over the years, he said it works wonders. I just need to justify the X amount of dollars required to preform the 1 or 2 times it will be required to get my pups to quit, and no to the fact there just ANIMALS ;);) mine have the run of the house and I find them perfect buddies to keep the wife on her side of the bed :D. Tomorrows another day and with only 5 days left of Muley season the pups will be spending more time at home then out with me.
By the way it was quite rewarding to hit my gong at 525 yds 5 out of 5 times being it was the first time stretching it that far, I have taken my 6BR to 1000 but being its all custom I would expect that not to be a problem.
Stay safe out there you never no when my dogs are coming.
Cheers:sniper:
 
If someone shot my pup that was still young and chasing a deer they would have hell to pay... AND I promise you the charges you will get for shooting my dog WILL top my fines for my dog chasing a deer.

I am all for trained animals but if its a puppy being a puppy in the middle of the forest (ie not a playground with children running around!!!) let the damn dog be!!!
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
FYI, when posting on CGN , only post your legal, ethically, and morally correct actions.

Any others will get you lynched.
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Two dogs were shot by CO's for chasing deer. They were 9 & 10 miles from home about an hour after their owners went to work. Dogs worrying livestock is sufficient grounds for ranchers or employees to shoot dogs.

There is a CGN rule about posting illegal activity. Rule #1: Any discussion and/or promotion of illegal activities. To reiterate what Kelly said one should ask the question, "Is it legal, moral and ethical".

There was nothing wrong with posting shooting prowess as that is the intent of the site.

What amazes me are the inflamatory comments that resulted. Perhaps an administrator decision would be appropriate. This was a warning received when the question was, "If you could hunt with a handgun" to which I replied "a rifle": 1st time offender: inappropriate language & materials, baiting and disruptive behaviours.

Tac has a (0) trading rating so a little guidance would be in line.
 
I purchased a lab that was fully grown. The idjet I bought him from actually trained the dog for big game which is taboo here in Alberta. I knew nothing of this so first time out in the bush he was gone for an hour.

I took him on leash to good deer cover. When he smelled fresh deer sign he would get "birdy" for lack of a better term. I would scold him of the behavior and continue our walk.

On the second outing when ever he sniffed the tracks or droppings I would just say "No" in a very deep voice and he would go on his way.

After a few walks on the leash he wouldn't even slow down for the deer sign.

Later that fall a buck ran onto the road in front of us. He stopped almost taunting the dog to chase. The dog whined a couple times in his discontent but stayed put. I made a big fuss over his good behavior and he hasn't given me a problem in the last 8 years.

Some folks are not aware that even a short chase can be death to a White-tail in cold winter weather. If brought to stress they are unable to recover to a normal body temperature. Every ounce of energy they have is often needed just to survive the winter. Even if the dog doesn't stress the animal moving them from their trails into deep snow may be the end of them.

Good luck with your pups and nice shootin'.
 
Thanks for all your comments Folks they are greatly appreciated good or bad.
I have found a spot with more open country to run the pups, it affords me the chance to see if there are deer in there near future. I let them run first off to burn off some energy while walking with there for a mile or so then I put them on a rope and do control training back to the truck, so far things have gone well. Could be the deer are not frequenting tis area as much as the Elk are, so it seems they are coming around some what.
The wife and I are moving to Kamloops and there is alto of open country out that way so the training will continue as well as my long range target practice.
Cheers:dancingbanana::sniper:
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Kelly Timoffee said:
FYI, when posting on CGN , only post your legal, ethically, and morally correct actions.

Any others will get you lynched.
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...True but what is ethical and legal in one province is illegal in others. Ontario deer hunters drive deer with packs of dogs, absolutely illegal in many other locations. Saskatchewan hunters shoot deer over bait piles. This action in Manitoba will net you a fine if convicted and loss of hunting privileges will follow. South Dakota allows varmints to be shot out of vehicles, in Canada this would be a safe gun handling issue and likely a criminal code offense. As for morally correct actions, this will vary as per ones personality, upbringing, education level, etc... Posting anything on discussion forums may or may not stir the pot...as I'm quite sure this post will.....:D
 
You are right.

Education level??? :D

M12shooter said:
...True but what is ethical and legal in one province is illegal in others. Ontario deer hunters drive deer with packs of dogs, absolutely illegal in many other locations. Saskatchewan hunters shoot deer over bait piles. This action in Manitoba will net you a fine if convicted and loss of hunting privileges will follow. South Dakota allows varmints to be shot out of vehicles, in Canada this would be a safe gun handling issue and likely a criminal code offense. As for morally correct actions, this will vary as per ones personality, upbringing, education level, etc... Posting anything on discussion forums may or may not stir the pot...as I'm quite sure this post will.....:D
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Keep working on the pups Tack, they usually want to please the boss. Kelly i`ve come to the conclusion that most things are only illegal if you are seen doing them.;)
 
Until the Angels Fall said:
If someone shot my pup that was still young and chasing a deer they would have hell to pay... AND I promise you the charges you will get for shooting my dog WILL top my fines for my dog chasing a deer.

I am all for trained animals but if its a puppy being a puppy in the middle of the forest (ie not a playground with children running around!!!) let the damn dog be!!!
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don't make promises if you know they can't be fulfilled ;) and then read the posts below yours...


Johnny G1 said:
Just a note for you, don't take your puppies out in the bush if they are chasing game, most people's eye sight is not that good when dog's are chasing game, Just my thought's, so keep them at home untill they are trained.
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dead meat said:
Keep working on the pups Tack, they usually want to please the boss. Kelly i`ve come to the conclusion that most things are only illegal if you are seen doing them.;)
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while i believe it's illegal for a hunter to shoot a dog that is harassing wildlife, some people choose the old SSS rule. what if your dog chases a deer towards a farm and gets distracted by some chickens on someones land and decides to chase them instead? the landowner could legally shoot your dog (rightly so) and proceed to smile, wave, and get back to chores while you're crying over your dead pup. it would be 100% YOUR FAULT if your dog was killed.

what if your dog is harassing wildlife and crosses a road causing a fatal collision? who's to blame? YOU.

what if your dog ends up on someones property and gets into a scrap with another dog? guess who gets to pay for the vet bills, even if your dog gets shot in defense? YOU.


suggesting that it's ok for dogs to run rampant is the most irresponsible thing you can do as a dog owner. it's not the dogs fault, it's the irresponsible, ignorant, and idiotic owners fault if something bad happens to their dog.

there's an active thread in OT regarding a dog that will probably lose it's leg because it was hit by a car. that's what not having control of your animal gets you.

but yeah, let the puppy be a puppy :rolleyes:
 
Tack-243 said:
Not sure who Kevin G is but thanks for the kind words, yes my pups are out of hand but it doesn't seem to mater where I take them out for a run, there is always deer around , I'm doomed to say anything on this board that won't offend some one, but being I have 60 years of experience who gives a Farmer.
Cheers:sniper:
LOL my dogs are not child chasers and if they were then so would I.
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Put shock collars on them and turn them inside out with a "NO!!" for a fw times - they get the message REAL quick.
Porcupines, deer, moose, rabbits, anything you do not want them to chase gets comunicated with expedience.
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RE: e-collars

i have an e-collar for each of my dogs and they are very effective providing the operator knows how to use them properly. first off, it's not mean or painful for your dog if done properly as you're suppose to start from the lowest setting (barely noticeable on your hand) and move up until you get a reaction from your animal. this allows you to find the power level required to correct your dog for aiding in training without inflicting pain.

in 3 years, my lab has received a couple low powered zaps to remind her what the command "come" means when we're out for a walk. she has only ever taken one powerful zap, but that was to correct her when she decided to attempt to run across the street to see another dog. now she stops at the edge of my driveway without saying a word whether she's wearing the collar or not. what's better, correcting your dog to teach it right from wrong or a dead dog laying on the street?

as for the beagle/walker hound cross, she's rather stubborn and it doesn't help that she has running deer in her blood. but, she still only requires low powered correction the odd time to break her off fresh deer trails. she now just requires a firm "COME" most of the time, but still requires a level 3 zap the odd time. if i can train this dog to stop running deer, any dog can be trained;)

to put it into perspective, my e-collars have power settings from 1-8 with 1 being barely noticeable and 8 will make your entire leg hurt if the collar is placed on your thigh. the controller stays on level 2 most of the time which is comparable to a 9 volt battery on your tongue.

$375 ($225 for one collar and one remote. $150 for an add on collar) is cheaper than one visit to the vet with an injured dog...
 
canadian hunter312 said:
don't make promises if you know they can't be fulfilled ;) and then read the posts below yours...







:50cal::50cal::50cal::50cal:



while i believe it's illegal for a hunter to shoot a dog that is harassing wildlife, some people choose the old SSS rule. what if your dog chases a deer towards a farm and gets distracted by some chickens on someones land and decides to chase them instead? the landowner could legally shoot your dog (rightly so) and proceed to smile, wave, and get back to chores while you're crying over your dead pup. it would be 100% YOUR FAULT if your dog was killed.

what if your dog is harassing wildlife and crosses a road causing a fatal collision? who's to blame? YOU.

what if your dog ends up on someones property and gets into a scrap with another dog? guess who gets to pay for the vet bills, even if your dog gets shot in defense? YOU.


suggesting that it's ok for dogs to run rampant is the most irresponsible thing you can do as a dog owner. it's not the dogs fault, it's the irresponsible, ignorant, and idiotic owners fault if something bad happens to their dog.

there's an active thread in OT regarding a dog that will probably lose it's leg because it was hit by a car. that's what not having control of your animal gets you.

but yeah, let the puppy be a puppy :rolleyes:
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Case the loss of a few chickens is worth shooting a dog over...go up to the owener and demand he pays for the hurt or killed chickens or call the cops. What are they, $7/each now?

Some people are just too willing to shoot anything...including a family pet.
 
Tack243: There's a huge diff between a loose dog chaseing a deer for 20 mins in a remote area & a dog that continously runs deer unaccompanied at any time of the year. 1st case no harm done to dog or deer (deer get chased all the time) as long as chase is short, & does are not close to dropping. I have threatoned to shoot a local dog that runs deer any & all times of the year but so far can't bring myself to shot anothers dog. If on the other hand I met you & your dog I would acknowledge what a great time you & your dog was having.:)

PS. I'll take that dog on the right if he runs deer for 20 mins & comes right back, a better deer dog than that can't be found :)
 
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