seriously... why is black badge training so expensive?

LMAO.... and the usual IPSC hero you are i see. For the sake of argument you are right.. no one who shoots IPSC has back up mags... all those guys u see with 8 plus mags on hand must not be real. Or the cost of holsters, mag holders, fancy belts... don't forget the jersey... basically are free... oh and BTW ...how many stages do you shoot in a match? Ya thats what i thought... please keep talking... you clearly know....
IPSC- run and shoot as you want....IDPA following a set of rules and orders...ya IPDA sounds much easier!:rolleyes:
I think anyone who knows anything and "does both" wouldn't even pretend IPSC doesn't cost more... and clearly i wasn't talking about then MIN cost, i was talking about being competitive....
Now not bashing IPSC... great game as well...and blackbadge if u can afford it is a great course....IPSC is just different and MUCH more expensive than IDPA... so just giving the OP an option seeing as how cash might have been an issue.
I knew i saw you at the club.. you're the guy wearing head to toe STI and Tanfoglio attire to prove how good you are right?


Madness said:
wow! talk about shjtting out the mouth.
8 mags- wrong! max stage is 32 rounds so 4 on the belt and 1 in the gun is perfect
$200 holster or a bum-wrong! Blade Tech works just fine in any division even open with their new ice model. Last level 3 at EESA, Standard overall was won using a Blade Tech without the drop and offset mount.
IDPA= thinking mans game- wrong! there is one way to shoot it and you are told how, not much thinking there. I shoot both, IDPA is far easier when it comes to analytical thinking.
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There certainly is a rift, it seems, between ipsc and idpa shooters. I have no idea why it should/needs to exist....but alas.......

For what it is worth, I shoot both sports with the same equipment.....granted....I qm not at the top of tue pile of either......but I do enjoy them both!
 
IPSC vs IDPA

Hey, what's the fuss about?
Over the years I have observed that in any sport there is base amount you will need to spend, from there the sky's the limit...I've seen target shooters with revolvers that have cost more than my entire kit.

Speaking of kit, you do not need 8 mags. People who carry that many do so out of choice, and maybe belt size. I carry 5, and have for years, and since one goes in the pistol that leaves 4 at the beep. And my holster, I started with a second hand blade tech, which broke last year (after 6 years use) so now I have a new blade tech...and if you go to the US to shoot production guess what style you need.

A holster course is not a black badge course, of course (no pun intended) so it is not goig to cost the same. If you have ever taken a pistol course with a top shooter it isn't free.

Bottom line though, I thought we did this because it's fun :)
 
easysauce said:
I guess I am just spoiled by WRAS 3 gun, they train educate get you up to speed on the sports safety, but its included in the membership.

so after you pay the 200-250 for the BB you dont have to pay that years membership? what are match fees/round counts like? I can just start doing IPSC an you never have to repay for BB?
whats IDPA? same type of course of fire but different org? never heard of it around alberta

either way, I was interested in it for the extra pistol training alone since I havnt made it to front sight in vegas yet :p
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I've been shooting IDPA here in Calgary for over 3 years.

PM me and I'd be happy to discuss the Alberta Tactical Handgun League with you.
 
Hmmm...Blackhawk CQC holster $35
blade tech pouches 4 @ $25
Belt $65
Kimber Custom II, $800
5 Wilson Combat mags @ $32 each
Less than $1100 for my Classic division rig. I've used this in SS in the US and been either 1st or second every time and I've shot it in Standard Division up here as placed in the top 3. What rig in IDPA is competitive for Significantly less than that?
The only real expense that matters to be competitive in any sport is practice. And it's the same amount in all of them if you want to be good.
 
To be honest, its the round count that seems to be the big cost. As usual the gun and the equipment costs are peanuts next to that dam ammo in the long run! lol. clearly reloading is a must.... unless you have a blessed income! Again wasn't trying to cause drama...just another option. I love and respect all shooting styles.
 
run and shoot as you want? not exaclty, if you shot it rather then shoot your mouth off about it you would know. Both games have a distinct set of rules which need to be followed. Not everyone has multiple back up mags. I only had 5 mags for my STI for the first 5 years I shot it. had you actually looked into the Rewards Program from STI, I have the Jersey so that STI gives me free stuff when I win. Tanfoglio? don't play with spaghetti shoooters ;-) IPDA doesn't require you to plan out a stage and engagement sequence, its stated for you in the senario and by tactical priority rules, hence less thinking required for stage break down. as for # of stages, depends on the size of the match for both games, you would know this if you shot. Being competitve has nothing to do with how much you spend, you can't buy the skills required to shoot these games. a good production, revolver or classic division rig is equal to the cost of an IDPA rig. Standard and Open can get pricy if you let it but you don't have to shoot in those divisions. please do us a favour and think before you type, as your points are not very solid. Thanks for coming out
 
7.62mm said:
There certainly is a rift, it seems, between ipsc and idpa shooters. I have no idea why it should/needs to exist....but alas.......

For what it is worth, I shoot both sports with the same equipment.....granted....I qm not at the top of tue pile of either......but I do enjoy them both!
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Probably stems from the fact the IDPA was created or a rift between USPSA members. they're both shooting games, its like saying NASCAR isn't racing but INDY is. You also have to factor in that some people are just born to be a certain way

The course is a bit more then heres how to draw and these are the rules. It teaches you the basic fundamentals to safely navigate a cours of fire, then through stuctured practice reinforces them so that you are confident in your ability to safly cary them out. After wards we bring in the PR and fashion consultants to help yu pick out the proper outfit when shooting. You don't want to be "that guy" whos got a shirt or hat that doens't match the gun do you?
 
:D To the OP.. Madness clearly knows all. Please Disregard IPDA as a less expensive option. "Obviously" the cost is the same if not more and IPSC is like 3d chess compared to IDPA (checkers). I'm sure he'll state some ridiculous ammo cost and how he gets paid to shoot ammo from some "program" he's on. Anyway all i was meaning was take a look into IDPA if cost is an issue. Most (not all :rolleyes:) would agree IDPA is cheaper to shoot and just as fun and doesn't seem to have as much.....lets just call it......attitude.;)



Madness said:
run and shoot as you want? not exaclty, if you shot it rather then shoot your mouth off about it you would know. Both games have a distinct set of rules which need to be followed. Not everyone has multiple back up mags. I only had 5 mags for my STI for the first 5 years I shot it. had you actually looked into the Rewards Program from STI, I have the Jersey so that STI gives me free stuff when I win. Tanfoglio? don't play with spaghetti shoooters ;-) IPDA doesn't require you to plan out a stage and engagement sequence, its stated for you in the senario and by tactical priority rules, hence less thinking required for stage break down. as for # of stages, depends on the size of the match for both games, you would know this if you shot. Being competitve has nothing to do with how much you spend, you can't buy the skills required to shoot these games. a good production, revolver or classic division rig is equal to the cost of an IDPA rig. Standard and Open can get pricy if you let it but you don't have to shoot in those divisions. please do us a favour and think before you type, as your points are not very solid. Thanks for coming out
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I think I paid $170 for the BB course...$70 of which was for the membership.

ALthough I am grateful to those who ran the course, because I would otherwise be unable to shoot IPSC, I do not feel it was worth the money.

Why IPSC is so attached to their own holster course is a topic for another thread.
 
Aero_Plane said:
:D To the OP.. Madness clearly knows all. Please Disregard IPDA as a less expensive option. "Obviously" the cost is the same if not more and IPSC is like 3d chess compared to IDPA (checkers). I'm sure he'll state some ridiculous ammo cost and how he gets paid to shoot ammo from some "program" he's on. Anyway all i was meaning was take a look into IDPA if cost is an issue. Most (not all :rolleyes:) would agree IDPA is cheaper to shoot and just as fun and doesn't seem to have as much.....lets just call it......attitude.;)
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Just as an FYI, not necessarily related to the OP, but the IDPA holster course at EESA costs $10.
 
Aero_Plane said:
:D To the OP.. Madness clearly knows all. Please Disregard IPDA as a less expensive option. "Obviously" the cost is the same if not more and IPSC is like 3d chess compared to IDPA (checkers). I'm sure he'll state some ridiculous ammo cost and how he gets paid to shoot ammo from some "program" he's on. Anyway all i was meaning was take a look into IDPA if cost is an issue. Most (not all :rolleyes:) would agree IDPA is cheaper to shoot and just as fun and doesn't seem to have as much.....lets just call it......attitude.;)
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all? no. more then you? seems like a safe bet:D I have more posts, so I must:rockOn:. Would love an ammo contract, but a gas card and half off at Marriott would be better:cool:
not a good simile sice chess pieces can only move certain ways, yes there are more options but still limited in the overall picture. Don't know why you have such a bug up your ass about me, but thats your prob. Just stating solid facts taken from actual experience in multiple shooting games rather then interweb hear-say. Since IDPA has less clubs hosting matches your travel cost is much high to attend the same # of IPSC matches in Ontario, food for thought
 
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