Bought my first AR, now looking for optics

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I just ordered a RRA AR and I think I have decided on using the Warne R.A.M.P mount. For the side optic I plan on using a Burris Fastfire II or something similar to that. The primary optic is the one I am having trouble deciding on. I really like the Leupold Mark AR style, but I am wondering if there is something similar that may be a little cheaper. I'm not looking for NC Star or any of that crap. Just something of decent quality that won't break the bank.

All opinions are welcomed. If you think I will be better suited going a completely different route, please share.

Edit: I guess I should let you know what I will be using it for. I got the one with a 10.5" barrel, so I won't be shooting it much past 100 yards. Probably more in the 60 yard range. So magnification isn't terribly important. I will also be using it for CQB type shooting, which is why I was also looking at a secondary red dot.

Thanks in advance!
 
Burris AR332 site is great. Will work excellent for short range and also already set-up if you need to reach out and touch something at 200 or 300 hundred yards with the built in compensator. Neat thing about this site is that it has a picatinny rail on top and the sides so you could easily add your fastfire. As a matter of fact, I think there is actually a kit that includes the AR332 and the fastfire. Another neat thing, as it is a lit sight (like a red dot), it also works without light too if I recall correctly.
 
omg 450 and 300$ I though those were cheapo options.

Im in the same boat, but I think ill consider keeping stock iron sights for a while.... :p
 
Viper PST as Mentioned, or Burris Tac-30 are good "cheaper" 1-4 options, and of course you mention you will be focusing primarily on CQB and it's 10.5"..

That said why not just consider a Aimpoint T-1 Micro, or if that is too much dough, look at a Vortex Sparc. Just thought. :redface:
 
These are all awesome looking scopes, but they are a little out of my price range. I'd like to get one under $200 if possible. I'm willing to spend a little more for the right one, but $500+ is certainly out of the question. After all, it will probably only be used a dozen times a year. My other guns need trigger time too! Lol
 
Apart from the uberkewl factor, why put two different sights on what is basically a single purpose carbine?
 
tiriaq said:
Apart from the uberkewl factor, why put two different sights on what is basically a single purpose carbine?
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The more I've been reading and looking at the prices of these scopes and a decent mount, I've come to the realization that I can buy an Eotech for the same price and be very happy with that. I think that's what I am going to do.

I'll probably end up getting the RRA varmint upper in the next little while, so I'll put a decent scope on that one to use for longer range shooting.
 
If you get the Eotech, you will need a secondary sighting system.
Eotechs are dependant on batteries. Anything battery dependent is in one of two states: it has either failed, or is about to. A bit of an exaggeration, perhaps, and no doubt there are many regular users who have never, ever had batteries run down ever. But it does happen. I have seen it happen.
This is the whole reason for existence of back up iron sights - BUIS.
Get a decent quality sight that is not battery dependent, and have fun.
 
Stick with the iron sights for a while longer, and save up for a decent sight. You won't regret buying something good.

Waiting will also give you a bit more time to decide, as from your posts, you still seem to be in the decision phase.

An excellent anternative to the Eotech (and less problematic re: the battery), would be the Aimpoint PRO. This optic was designed to compete with the Eotechs, and has a very good reputation so far. I liked it so much, I bought six.

With regard to shooting with your 10.5", don't think you are limited to CQB distances. Guys are sending hajis for dirt naps at several hundred meters using 10.5" to 14.5" rifles. There is a good thread on M4C about this at the moment.

Regards.

Mark
 
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Get an Eotech, and you'll need a good set of BUIS. I have used Trijicons, Eotechs, and Aimpoints. I now use Aimpoints, (and some Leupolds).

Seriously, have you ever seen an Eotech demo'd by being removed from a rifle, thrown across a concrete parking lot, thrown back again, remounted, and used without losing zero?

Have you seen the Daniel Defense video?

Why do people like Larry Vickers, Pat Rogers, etc. use Aimpoints?

The Eotech is a good sight, but compared to Aimpoints, they do not stand up in terms of durability or battery life. The Aimpoints are generally more expensive, which is why they developed the PRO, it was put into production to compete with Eotechs where PDs were looking for RDSs and were constrained by cost.

Regards.

Mark
 
I have a Burris TAC-30, Warne RAMP, and cheap NC Star red dot on my AR. If you decide to go this route keep in mind that with a FastFire on the right side of the RAMP mount, the ON/OFF switch will be very hard to get at. The TAC 30 has great glass and the ballistics CQ reticle is nice for sure.

I grabbed the el cheapo NC Star one partly because it has a rear ON/OFF switch, and also windage adjustments are on the right side of the optic. Others like the Leupold Deltapoint have the windage on the left side making adjustments impossible with your main optic installed.
 
armorman said:
Get an EOTech and a good set of buis. If the batteries go dead just replace them....
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Using a sight that requires a backup sighting system and battery changes leaves something to be desired for recreational shooting. In a real life and death situation, it just doesn't make sense.
 
Tuco Pike said:
Burris AR332 site is great. Will work excellent for short range and also already set-up if you need to reach out and touch something at 200 or 300 hundred yards with the built in compensator. Neat thing about this site is that it has a picatinny rail on top and the sides so you could easily add your fastfire. As a matter of fact, I think there is actually a kit that includes the AR332 and the fastfire. Another neat thing, as it is a lit sight (like a red dot), it also works without light too if I recall correctly.
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I know the decision is made but this would be my vote fir whats actually in your budget (ok slightly over).
 
tiriaq said:
Using a sight that requires a backup sighting system and battery changes leaves something to be desired for recreational shooting. In a real life and death situation, it just doesn't make sense.
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:nest:

Really... So all the Eotech in combat are to be removed right away... :rolleyes:
 
tiriaq said:
Using a sight that requires a backup sighting system and battery changes leaves something to be desired for recreational shooting. In a real life and death situation, it just doesn't make sense.
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Good thing it's been months since my last life or death gunfight... although I did get a paper cut yesterday, should I fear paper is beginning to wage a guerrilla style war for all the holes I've punched in it last month?

The aimpoint vs eotech has been beat to death. Buy both, try them both out, pick one, sell the other, don't look back.

if you are worried about the battery life on the eotech - buy a AA model. Put a pack of AA from commie tire in your shooting bag or vehicle and change them once a month.
 
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