Well ive learned that Mountain rifle is top loading, meaning no detachable mag, im not a fan of top loading rifles, i prefer a detachable mag. Im now looking at at a Tikka T3 Lite in 30-06, any opinions on those?
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Just for your information, any 700 with a hinged floor plate does not have to be loaded from the top. It's quicker and easier to load and unload through the floor plate. As for the T-3, they have great triggers, and tend to be quite accurate.
Ive only ever handled one top load rifle and cant remember the brand but i didnt like it. Im not even sure how you would load this one from the bottom. So you flick open the swing plate and put one round in the chamber or can you load 5 that way? I just like having the magazine totally separate, its easy to unload the gun without having to cycle the rounds out. Maybe i just dont know enough about this model, i cant find a video on it anywhere.
A hinged floorplate magazine can be easily unloaded by releasing the floorplate latch and dumping the rounds into your hand. You don't need to run every round through the action. Likewise, you can load the magazine by holding the rifle upside down with the floorplate open and bolt closed and dropping rounds into the magazine box if you prefer not to load from the top.
Thanks.
If you are on a tight budget, wss has a savage axis xp stainless steel on sale for 320 with a scope. Came to 400 including taxes and shipping when I ordered mine. Blued is even cheaper. For the calibre, if you choose one of the more popular cartridges(270, 30-06, 308, 7mm, etc) you will have a decent selection of factory ammo and they are all good choices. Personally I think the only good cartridges end in "wby mag" 
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For a dual purpose target/hunting rifle you could do worse than a standard M-700 Remington in .30/06, .280, or .270. If you intend to put lots of rounds down range, the standard weight sporter barrel might prove a better choice than a light contour barrel that heats up quickly. If your hunting rifle always puts the first round on your point of aim, and then puts the second round on top of the first you have a winner, but at the range you want to shoot groups without having to wait several minutes for the barrel to cool after every couple of rounds. If you find your rifle doesn't shoot to your expectations, you can always spin on an after market barrel from any number of manufacturers which alone will almost certainly reduce your group size, and many gun smiths can tweak a 700 so it can shoot the heads off fleas at a quarter mile.
While choosing a duel purpose rifle isn't an insurmountable problem, I believe its a mistake to buy a scope that promises to be both a target scope and a hunting scope. Most target shooting applications require a physically large big power scope. Mine has a 34 mm tube, is a foot and a half long and is heavy enough to ensure its used for a specific application. The 4-12X Leupold that my .243 is equipped with is what might be called a duel purpose scope. Mostly it works, because mostly I shoot beyond 100 yards with it, but it has cost me more shots than I care to admit when the range has been short, the target moving, and I couldn't find the critter in the small field of view. A low power variable like a 1.5-5X or a 1.75-6X is a much better big game scope than the medium power variables unless you are prepared top pass up the close range opportunities. The purpose of the magnification is to enable the shooter to see his target, and big game animals tend to be big targets.
Lets talk about the shooting you'll do at the range for a minute. I'm not sure what type of shooting you intend to do, but endlessly shooting 100 yards groups from a bench long after you have worked up your load is pretty boring. Conversely, shooting from field positions at targets set out at unknown ranges never gets old. Chances are if you have an off the shelf M-700 Remington fitted with a good quality low power variable scope, you will never be able to shoot up to your rifle as long as you keep your shooting scenarios demanding and interesting. Your imagination is all that limits the possibilities. As soon as you think you've aced the problem, add another wrinkle and see if you do as well. The only troubles with this approach is the amount of time you'll need to dedicate to the loading bench and the spiraling cost of components.
While choosing a duel purpose rifle isn't an insurmountable problem, I believe its a mistake to buy a scope that promises to be both a target scope and a hunting scope. Most target shooting applications require a physically large big power scope. Mine has a 34 mm tube, is a foot and a half long and is heavy enough to ensure its used for a specific application. The 4-12X Leupold that my .243 is equipped with is what might be called a duel purpose scope. Mostly it works, because mostly I shoot beyond 100 yards with it, but it has cost me more shots than I care to admit when the range has been short, the target moving, and I couldn't find the critter in the small field of view. A low power variable like a 1.5-5X or a 1.75-6X is a much better big game scope than the medium power variables unless you are prepared top pass up the close range opportunities. The purpose of the magnification is to enable the shooter to see his target, and big game animals tend to be big targets.
Lets talk about the shooting you'll do at the range for a minute. I'm not sure what type of shooting you intend to do, but endlessly shooting 100 yards groups from a bench long after you have worked up your load is pretty boring. Conversely, shooting from field positions at targets set out at unknown ranges never gets old. Chances are if you have an off the shelf M-700 Remington fitted with a good quality low power variable scope, you will never be able to shoot up to your rifle as long as you keep your shooting scenarios demanding and interesting. Your imagination is all that limits the possibilities. As soon as you think you've aced the problem, add another wrinkle and see if you do as well. The only troubles with this approach is the amount of time you'll need to dedicate to the loading bench and the spiraling cost of components.
So how would you carry that gun when hunting? Empty? Then load single rounds or load it but I'm thinking you would have to leave the bolt open cause as soon as you move it forward it will chamber a round. Or do you close the bolt and load from the bottom?
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I carry my gun with one in the pipe and the the mag full (hinged floor plate like the Rem 700).
You can have the mag full and the bolt closed though. You can either load it as you described (bolt closed then fill mag from bottom) or you can simply push the bullets down while closing the bolt so it doesnt pick one up. Then cycle the action when you want one in the chamber.
The good thing about internal mags is they dont get lost or forgotten at home. Speaking from experience, its no fun to forget your mag in the gun cabinet.
Ya im leaning more towards a Tikka T3 lite right now in 30-06. But still researching.
Well i went to the local gun store today to see what he had. He had some decent inventory. I held a lot of guns he had, but the one i kept coming back too i ended up buying.
Im sure i may have paid more then normal, as fort mcmurray tends to be more expensive.
Anyhow.
I bought a Sako 85L in 300 Win Mag. That thing was so light and the action felt like butter when you worked it.
I got a Leupold VX-3 4.5-14x40mm Long Range scope to go on it as well.
Looks like a nice gun, what you guys think?
Im sure i may have paid more then normal, as fort mcmurray tends to be more expensive.
Anyhow.
I bought a Sako 85L in 300 Win Mag. That thing was so light and the action felt like butter when you worked it.
I got a Leupold VX-3 4.5-14x40mm Long Range scope to go on it as well.
Looks like a nice gun, what you guys think?
Its not a gun shop per say, its an outdoor gear shop for cloths and such. Its just that the owner is a avid hunter and so he bought in a bunch of hunting stuff, rifles etc.. that he keeps in the back room. Basically in his office lol. The store is called Outdoor Essentials, its in Thickwood.
Actually I guess its a Sako 85L Finnlight. The Finnlight wasnt written on the tag but it looks exactly like the one in the link below.
http://www.sako.fi/pdf/specs/85Finnlight.pdf
http://www.sako.fi/pdf/specs/85Finnlight.pdf
I will take some tommorrow.
nomad 68
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Thanks,i drove by the place many times.I 'll have to check it out.Ever been to the shop in Lac La Biche?I've been meaning to check them out also.
