Bittermansbro
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Road King, I was thinking that either the door was small or the gun was really big. Very nice and unique 1885....wowza!
Lets get a some lever action #### going
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Not sure what it weights but shoots and balances well off hand. The number 2barrel is not the standard for a 36" barrel most people that ordered the number 3 or 4.
I still think that this was my favorite of Mr. Browning's gun inventions.
I still think that this was my favorite of Mr. Browning's gun inventions.
Ok, here are a few more photos of another of my favorites. This is my Deluxe Winchester Model 64 carbine in 30WCF. Though Winchester first started manufacturing the Model 64 - sibling to the Model 1894 - in late 1932, the company first cataloged the 64 in January 1933. It was meant to replace the Model 55 and 1894 rifle. According to the Polishing Room Records at the Cody Museum in Wyoming, this gun had its serial number applied on September 13, 1933, making it a first year production gun. What also makes this first year 64 deluxe carbine special is that is was specially ordered by the customer with a Lyman 56 receiver sight as well as a Winchester red rubber buttpad.
If memory serves me, I believe George Madis noted in one his of his that the 64 deluxe carbine was one of the most difficult Winchester levers to find. According to Robert Renneberg, the original list price for the standard Model 64 at introduction was $42.85 and the deluxe or "deer rifle" was $59.00. Short barreled models, he notes, were about the same. I really like the 64s, they are really nice looking rifles. If anyone ever sees one in 32-40 or 38-55, let me know. Yes, they made a few in these calibers, but very few. Here are a few photos of my deluxe carbine:
Matt
If memory serves me, I believe George Madis noted in one his of his that the 64 deluxe carbine was one of the most difficult Winchester levers to find. According to Robert Renneberg, the original list price for the standard Model 64 at introduction was $42.85 and the deluxe or "deer rifle" was $59.00. Short barreled models, he notes, were about the same. I really like the 64s, they are really nice looking rifles. If anyone ever sees one in 32-40 or 38-55, let me know. Yes, they made a few in these calibers, but very few. Here are a few photos of my deluxe carbine:
Matt
Beauty of a 64, Matt. I owned the standard deluxe 64 complete with Lyman 56 some years ago and like an idiot, let it go. I wasn't aware that they ever made 64's in .38/55 or .32/40, any idea of numbers produced?
No, I'm not sure how many were produced in those calibers, but it is very few. I do know of US collector who is currently surveying the Model 64. He has so far found 4 authentic 64 rifles in 38-55, none in 32-40. Three of the four 38-55s he has found are deluxe rifles.
A deluxe 38-55 did show up for sale on the Internet just recently, listed for $8500 and it went fast!
http://www.gunsamerica.com/92902234...odel-94/Pre-64/WINCHESTER_64_DELUXE_38_55.htm
Renneberg discusses both calibers in the second edition of his book. He notes that both these calibers were listed in the 1937 catalog, and that he has seen only one of each caliber himself. He also notes that many very prominent and long time Winchester collectors have no knowledge of their existence and few are those who have actually seen them. Guess that gives a fellow an indication of how rare they are.
Matt
A deluxe 38-55 did show up for sale on the Internet just recently, listed for $8500 and it went fast!
http://www.gunsamerica.com/92902234...odel-94/Pre-64/WINCHESTER_64_DELUXE_38_55.htm
Renneberg discusses both calibers in the second edition of his book. He notes that both these calibers were listed in the 1937 catalog, and that he has seen only one of each caliber himself. He also notes that many very prominent and long time Winchester collectors have no knowledge of their existence and few are those who have actually seen them. Guess that gives a fellow an indication of how rare they are.
Matt
Johnn Peterson
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Nice Matt, very nice. Years ago I had a standard grade model 64 in 32 Special. Nowhere near to what you have though.
Nowhere near to what you have though.
freddyfour
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is that a youth model or a trapper?
Those are sharp looking little rifles with those short barrels. Must come up and point super fast in the field. Makes me think, I sure would like to have an original Winchester trapper / baby carbine. Those aren't an easy find up here.
I would love to find a set of those swivels to fit the wide factory studs for mine bought in '49 (shown back on page 2 of this thread).
Matt (or anyone), you don't happen to know where these might be found do you?
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I see them often on Fleabay.
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-...ltDomain_0&hash=item41611a6630#ht_2843wt_1396
These things are not cheap!
I don't think I have a set, but will check.
Matt
P.S. Nice rifle! Sure love the looks of those 64s.
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-...ltDomain_0&hash=item41611a6630#ht_2843wt_1396
These things are not cheap!
I don't think I have a set, but will check.
Matt
P.S. Nice rifle! Sure love the looks of those 64s.
Johnn Peterson
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I was given info from a guy on site, about a source state side
, but I can't recall exactly who. I believe it was a connection through someone in Winchester collector group. I wanted a ste for my model 71 and that's how I got them. Cost me $100.oo as I recall.
, but I can't recall exactly who. I believe it was a connection through someone in Winchester collector group. I wanted a ste for my model 71 and that's how I got them. Cost me $100.oo as I recall.
Johnn Peterson
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- Chemainus B.C.
I was given info from a guy on site, about a source state side
Update:
Checked my e-mail address list and I'm not positive but I think this is the contact info, e-mail address, I used.
therbob@winchesterbob.com
I did a quick google check and following site does seem to exist
www.winchesterbob.com
may be able to help you out.
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Thanks Johnn Peterson, I'll look into that.
Matt74, if you do happen to have a set I'd be interested.
My 64 was bought new by my grandfather in '49. Unfortunately by the time I received it it had been drilled for a scope mount when my grandfathers vision began to go (glaucoma) and was in pretty bad shape from having been loaned to various characters after he had to give up hunting altogether.
I decided to refinish it rather than leave it in that state. Re-cutting the worn and missing checkering was the trickiest part for me. My first checkering project.
I removed the ladder sight and put a Williams FP on while I was at it. I guess I really should put a Lyman on it.
My mother cried when she saw the result, she said he was so proud of that gun when he bought it. It was pretty fancy in those parts at the time.
I shoot it all the time with my cast 185gn bullets (30-30). It's very accurate.
Here's a few more pics. I've since put a blank in the barrel dovetail and put filler screws in the scope mount holes:
A savage 99C in 308 win I picked up on a trade. The fellow wanted my Stoger Condor much more than I wanted it. I have only tried it out a bit and not sure yet if I will keep it. I like my 99F in 300 savage more so far.
