Diff in barrel lenghts
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R&R Rancher
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- Manitoba's Interlake
3macs1, If you didn't live so far away I'd let you try this old girl. The cutts on a 410 makes a neat bark also
As for barrel weight and swing, count me in the camp of a longer, heavier gun to ensure a positive follow through. The gun pictured above is, to me, a prime example of the need for weight. Even with the weighted end cap and cutts on the end of the barrel, I had to work HARD to make sure I had a smooth swing when shooting skeet with it. It was too easy to swing too fast and get too far in front of the bird or not focus on the swing and shoot behind. If I shot a 12 ga right after it, I felt like it was cheating because the swing was automatic and I could focus entirely on the bird. BTW this gun is a half an inch longer than the 30" O/U's I use on skeet and sporting clays.
Proper fit in a gun just doesn't solely relate to stock dimensions. It also enters into the relam of balance and swing speed. Remember in my first post I refered to short barrels being "whippy", and long ones being "slower". Some where in between there is a balance for you.
So when you gentlemen refer to having to work hard at your swing and follow through I whole heartedly agree, we have all been there and done that, and probably always will each time we step on the pad.
Oh yes, and nothing wrong with a M-12 with a cutts, wish I had one each in the small gauges. As for my "POLY CHOKE" it is laying in my parts bin with about 1/4" of barrel still attached to it from where I cut it off with the hack saw.
So when you gentlemen refer to having to work hard at your swing and follow through I whole heartedly agree, we have all been there and done that, and probably always will each time we step on the pad.
Oh yes, and nothing wrong with a M-12 with a cutts, wish I had one each in the small gauges. As for my "POLY CHOKE" it is laying in my parts bin with about 1/4" of barrel still attached to it from where I cut it off with the hack saw.
I'm not sure why, other than the slightly shorter profile, I have always preferred a 26 inch barrel on my shotguns... I recently purchased a semi with a 24 inch barrel because it is going to 'do it all', from turkey's, upland through to waterfowl...
I have even used the BPS upland with a 22 inch barrel on waterfowl & never thought it felt out of place. I actually like just how fast you can handle shorter shotguns!
Cheers
Jay
I have even used the BPS upland with a 22 inch barrel on waterfowl & never thought it felt out of place. I actually like just how fast you can handle shorter shotguns!
Cheers
Jay
3macs1, If you didn't live so far away I'd let you try this old girl. The cutts on a 410 makes a neat bark also
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Very nice. What is it a rem 1148 semi. I still have my 1100's/ 870's in 410 and love shooting them. Talk about eating some humble pie. A 410 will burst anyone's bubble
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- Southern ON.
I use a 23 inch 870.
Major Sights
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So what your saying is the next time I'm at a skeet field with my Tactical 18.5" 870, I can tell them to pound sand when they start laughing?
Major Sights
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Yes sir right after you run a 100 with it, for that matter even 50
Hmmm, I not sure what that means, but I'll assume its not in my favor!
R&R Rancher
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- Manitoba's Interlake
3macs1, If you didn't live so far away I'd let you try this old girl. The cutts on a 410 makes a neat bark also
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Very nice. What is it a rem 1148 semi. I still have my 1100's/ 870's in 410 and love shooting them. Talk about eating some humble pie. A 410 will burst anyone's bubble
Yes, that's an 11-48. Picked it up last spring. I love shooting skeet with a 410. Its amazing how well they break if you're on, but it can humble you real fast!
Hmmm, I not sure what that means, but I'll assume its not in my favor!
I'm sorry., All I was saying was say nothing until you break either 100 targets straight with it or even 50 targets straight.
You break 100 targets straight with it and the following week probally most the other members will be trying to shoot one.
Major Sights
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I'm sorry., All I was saying was say nothing until you break either 100 targets straight with it or even 50 targets straight.
You break 100 targets straight with it and the following week probally most the other members will be trying to shoot one.
Gotchya! Well I am a little guy only 5'4", and a 18.5 is plenty long enough for me, easy to whip left and right, but more importantly stop! Although I do have a good "old fashioned" skeet gun with a 26" barrel. They couldn't possibly laugh at me with this, could they?
Maybe where you live pending what you are doing with it, 18-22" barrels are easier to handle, especially in close-quarters or indoor situations. Longer barrels provide a longer sight radius and greater accuracy at a distance shooting.
I use 30's for most waterfowl and even have a couple 36. I would love to see you in the blind with your 22" chasing some snow geese out west or sea ducks here at 55- 60 yards. Even better a nice round of trap. Pretty easy to stop your swing with a 22". But hey to each their own.take care
I do all my waterfowling with a 22" .. Ducks, Geese and Swans. as well as other game birds, rabbits and possums. trap and skeet.
22" is long enough to reach listed velocity for the ammo i use, and the barrel is choked.. no performance difference to a longer barrel.
Cool. Glad it works for you.?? Honestly ever run 100 in skeet or trap with it
Why is that your benchmark for everything? The best shotgunner I have ever seen doesn't know trap or skeet is fit to eat.
Not a bench mark I dreamed up but one that is understood by any shooter that has trained long and hard to acheived it consistantly.
It is all a measure of determining ones proficiency in handling a shotgun and what levels of expertise they have acheived. Yes some gunners have more natural ability than others but everyone can improve their shooting with instruction and shooting clay targets. In over 40 years on the field I have watched many of these "best shotgunners" like your Bud find out very quickly they are one dimensional and really cannot shoot properly or most important consistantly. Don't believe me take him to a club and you will see, get him hooked on targets and watch him improve his shooting even more when hunting. take care
Not a bench mark I dreamed up but one that is understood by any shooter that has trained long and hard to acheived it consistantly.
It is all a measure of determining ones proficiency in handling a shotgun and what levels of expertise they have acheived. Yes some gunners have more natural ability than others but everyone can improve their shooting with instruction and shooting clay targets. In over 40 years on the field I have watched many of these "best shotgunners" like your Bud find out very quickly they are one dimensional and really cannot shoot properly or most important consistantly. Don't believe me take him to a club and you will see, get him hooked on targets and watch him improve his shooting even more when hunting. take care
3macs,
You are spot on.
Gotchya! Well I am a little guy only 5'4", and a 18.5 is plenty long enough for me, easy to whip left and right, but more importantly stop! Although I do have a good "old fashioned" skeet gun with a 26" barrel. They couldn't possibly laugh at me with this, could they?
Major Sights,
Curious here. Interesting shotgun. What do you use it for?
