redddogg69
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It was a joke, I completely agree with your assessment.
WARNING: Stay away from Roni G1 Airsoft Copy
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It was a joke, I completely agree with your assessment.
Ah yes, the shoulder thing joke. It's like the "that's what she said" joke, it never dies.
I'm going to be the one to buck the trend here. I think the polymer of the kit is fine, the muzzle shroud is wrong, as it wasn't designed for a firearm. The stock just holds the gun, nothing more, and is very solid. All the parts are dimensionally identical, and probably from the same mold. The only area critical is the area just in front of the pistols muzzle. By being shorter, the muzzle shroud allows the expanding gasses to interact directly with the polymer stock, and could not possibly be expected to last. The whole concept is based on that metal sleave being there. I'm amazed it lasted 100 rounds, frankly.
I'll bet if you take the airsoft muzzle shroud, and put it on a real Roni, you get the same results, and, I'll shoot either one with the proper muzzle shroud, albeit, wearing eye protection.
Quote :Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it.:
I must be smoking the same stuff ...
As that is what I plan on doing with my kit as I bought the correct shroud from Questar for my 34 .
IMHO the barrel fits inside my shroud far enough that the gases will go out the front as designed and not to the side as in the OP,s experiance.The gap near the muzzle is less on mine...Look at the 2nd pic .When my kit is installed the end of my muzzle is actually in the hole a bit so the side pressure the OP experianced isnt there.
Glock 34 Shroud from Questar
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1399&bc=no
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exactly; like using a compensated glock in the kit! Kit's going to fail!!
If this is the case, surely I would have been the one to have an issue...
I have the Tan RONI kit, bought off of craigslist as an Airsoft accessory. I have my Glock 19 in the kit, and the muzzle shroud is nowhere near the end of the slide/muzzle. I've put 100+ rounds through the kit after putting it together (but nothing since) and I have noticed no issues other than gasses coming back in my face through the vents along the top of the kit (looking for a G17 for this reason). After cleaning the powder burns off of the polymer, I've noticed no discolouration or other anomalies such as stress marks, etc in the plastic.
I have the Tan RONI kit, bought off of craigslist as an Airsoft accessory. I have my Glock 19 in the kit, and the muzzle shroud is nowhere near the end of the slide/muzzle. I've put 100+ rounds through the kit after putting it together (but nothing since) and I have noticed no issues other than gasses coming back in my face through the vents along the top of the kit (looking for a G17 for this reason). After cleaning the powder burns off of the polymer, I've noticed no discolouration or other anomalies such as stress marks, etc in the plastic.
TheZreturns
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*** UPDATE ***
At first, I want to express my gratitude toward the owner of airsoftparts.ca who were really comprehensive toward all the problems that I had with these kits.
This guy has an awesome customer service!
First time, when he shipped my first roni copy, it was destroyed by Canada Post in the shipping (see post HERE)
Second, the guy was really cool on giving me updates of his new shipment arrival of Ronis for Christmas time.
He sent me back a new Roni by Express post, the minute he had one, so I was able to offer the Roni as a gift to a friend of mine...
Finally, happenned what you guys know happenned at the range with the Black Roni.
After speaking with the owner of airsoftparts.ca and even if there was no warranty on airsoft products, especially when I am using it on something it wasn't intended for (Firearms),
he decided to send me a tan version out of his own pocket!
I received the Tan version of the Roni today and I must tell you guys, it's WAY better built than the black versions...
The muzzlebrake have the right direction muzzle vents (12 o' clock) NOW and Push Pins (front and back) are working properly now.
I'm pretty sure now that even Tan version ARE STILL COPIES and not real Ronis from EMA, even if they have the EMA Tactical and Little Tactical Guy logos...
So here's the new Roni I received...
COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO (COPY vs ORIGINAL RONI):
Airsoft "Tan" copy:
Original Roni G1:
At first, I want to express my gratitude toward the owner of airsoftparts.ca who were really comprehensive toward all the problems that I had with these kits.
This guy has an awesome customer service!
First time, when he shipped my first roni copy, it was destroyed by Canada Post in the shipping (see post HERE)
Second, the guy was really cool on giving me updates of his new shipment arrival of Ronis for Christmas time.
He sent me back a new Roni by Express post, the minute he had one, so I was able to offer the Roni as a gift to a friend of mine...
Finally, happenned what you guys know happenned at the range with the Black Roni.
After speaking with the owner of airsoftparts.ca and even if there was no warranty on airsoft products, especially when I am using it on something it wasn't intended for (Firearms),
he decided to send me a tan version out of his own pocket!
I received the Tan version of the Roni today and I must tell you guys, it's WAY better built than the black versions...
The muzzlebrake have the right direction muzzle vents (12 o' clock) NOW and Push Pins (front and back) are working properly now.
I'm pretty sure now that even Tan version ARE STILL COPIES and not real Ronis from EMA, even if they have the EMA Tactical and Little Tactical Guy logos...
So here's the new Roni I received...
COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO (COPY vs ORIGINAL RONI):
Airsoft "Tan" copy:
Original Roni G1:
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Glad to hear about your new kit...nice of the dealer to do that .
In the pic the barrel shroud on the real Roni looks quite a bit longer than the copy.
My 34 shroud from Questar will fit over the end of my pistol aprox 1/4 inch past the flat bevelled edge and the end of the muzzle actually protrudes into the center section a tiny bit.
The barrel shroud on the copy looks like it will still not cover the front of the muzzle as well as the original does ...
In the pic the barrel shroud on the real Roni looks quite a bit longer than the copy.
My 34 shroud from Questar will fit over the end of my pistol aprox 1/4 inch past the flat bevelled edge and the end of the muzzle actually protrudes into the center section a tiny bit.
The barrel shroud on the copy looks like it will still not cover the front of the muzzle as well as the original does ...
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TheZreturns
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Exactly... DING DING DING!
*** POSSIBLE FAILURE EXPLAINATION ***
ORIGINAL RONI G1's barrel shroud measures around 4ÂĽ inches:
AIRSOFT COPY RONI's barrel shroud measures around a little less than 4.0 inches:
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TheZreturns
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We got the answer... The muzzlebrake "lips" don't go far enough over the Glock's slide...
Here's BEFORE closing the muzzle cap:
Here's AFTER closing the muzzle cap:
As you can see on the picture above, the muzzlebrake is resting on the front face of the slide.
It don't go over the slide like the original roni's muzzlebrake which cover the frontal area for the muzzle blast!
Here's the original Roni and where the muzzlebrake sits on the slide:
redddogg69
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If questar can get some legit roni muzzle shrouds in I foresee a quick buck in their future.
Shooter1of38
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Am I the only one here that thinks justifying and convincing yourself that it's Kosher to use anything airsoft on a real center fire gun is like justifying having ### with a transvestite because he/she looked VERY feminine and there were only subtle differences in their construction?
Am I the only one here that thinks justifying and convincing yourself that it's Kosher to use anything airsoft on a real center fire gun is like justifying having ### with a transvestite because he/she looked VERY feminine and there were only subtle differences in their construction?
The problem is the consumer will try to do anything to save a few pennies. Hey it's an airsoft copy but for my usage it will be fine!
Dumb dumb dumb.
redddogg69
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Am I the only one here that thinks justifying and convincing yourself that it's Kosher to use anything airsoft on a real center fire gun is like justifying having ### with a transvestite because he/she looked VERY feminine and there were only subtle differences in their construction?
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
Buzzballer
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Love this topic! I for one have been tempted a few times to buy airsoft aim points and eotech sights...
But I guess even though they look and smell like the real thing.. There is no substitute for playing with real boo... Err fire arm components.
But I guess even though they look and smell like the real thing.. There is no substitute for playing with real boo... Err fire arm components.
I think what a lot of people miss here, is that the stock just holds part of the gun. Inside, there is a complete glock. Ie, a whole, safe, accurate gun. You are still holding the same grip, the same gun. You are not shooting the stock, nor holding it with anything other than your support hand. Even if the entire device spontaneously vanishes, I'm holding a glock 17, pointing it the same place I was before. The only critical area is in front of the muzzle. Everything else is snug as a bug in a rug, and you are holding the gun by the factory pistol grip. Yes, if it doesn't work, it sucks, but there is no real danger here, no more than a scope mount coming loose, or a foregrip getting wiggley. If it fails, throw it away. With a proper muzzle shroud, I have no fear.
It's like if I painted wings on my car, and people argued about the angle being wrong, and not offering enough lift. They're painted wings, the angle of attack is inconsequential. True, the angle may be wrong, but they offer no lift, they are painted on.
It's like if I painted wings on my car, and people argued about the angle being wrong, and not offering enough lift. They're painted wings, the angle of attack is inconsequential. True, the angle may be wrong, but they offer no lift, they are painted on.
Shooter1of38
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
True.....but take that a step further.
You have your car with painted on wings
You fill it up with jet fuel (centre fire ammo)
You drive at 100 mph towards the edge of a cliff and expect your fake wings to allow you to fly like authentic wings would.
You then realize as you plummet that there is no replacement for authentic wings and this whole thing was a dumb idea.
Like Blaxun said. "it all works fine until it doesn't"
Glocks are safe. That's what I'm shooting.
Really?... and how confident are you that your glock will remain safe when a piece of shattered or melted plastic from a pseudo firearms accessory gets lodged in the muzzle?.....
Shooter1of38
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Me too! Glock 17 wrapped in a real Roni kit.
I can pull the trigger every time with confidence.
I can rapid fire throuh multiple mags without hesitation.
I don't have to buy real parts to frankenstien to airsoft parts (as mine came fully assembled with everything needed to function safely)
Everyone using an airsoft copy kit will think of this thread and pictures of broken polymer with every range trip and trigger pull.....
If I owned or operated a range I would be posting notices that any Roni kits are subject to inspection and ALL airsoft kits will not be allowed at this facility.
At least that may potentially limit range liability if God forbid, anything were to happen.
In fact, I may carry my Questar invoice in my range back as proof mine is real.
