Wolverine Sale Pictures Thread

Make damm sure you have a good set of earmuffs when you fire that Swede carbine!
Had one many years ago BF (before earmuffs) Fired three rounds and I was deaf for an hour!:eek:
 
Thank you Gentlemen for the assistance, and Smellie, once again you prove you are a wealth of knowledge. Your insight and expertise is more valuable than anything we can find by googling :) .
Yes, too bad about the mag, but I just took an original mag from my other SVT and swapped floorplates. Looks pretty good, and this will not be a shooter for me anyway.
Here are pics of the receiver, more detailed with my poor camera. I see no evidence of a weld or metal being added. Looks like a scope would slide on there quite nicely. Unless I am missing something, which can definitely be the case. Thanks for the help.
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Standard SVT, never been notched for sniper use. Previous pics give the effect that something could have been done but now we see more clearly thant nothing was altered. Let us know how's the rifle shoot. Thankyou for posting pics:)
Jocelyn
 
Thanks Jocelyn! I appreciate your expertise. My refurb 1943 does not have the grooves on either side of the receiver....when and why did this stop?
 
Just picked this one up off the list by e-mail with John.

77 40519 W2279 Mauser 1891 Argentine Rifle 7.65x53 V good $395.00

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Looks to have been mis-advertised.

Rifle is second from left in this photo:

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I believe it's NOT an 1891 Argentine, but rather a Peruvian M1891 with intact crest. 30,000 manufactured according to Ball 4th Ed. Peru upgraded them all in 1912 to fire the 7.65x53JS spritzer round and installed Lange-Vizier sights, which is what made me suspect the mis-ID.

All Peruvian 1891's are marked on the side-wall as "Mauser Modelo Argentino 1891", hence the easy mistake. Happy to have noticed this and snagged it :) The Argentine version is FAR more common - 180,000 mfgrd. Also, it's rare to see any pre-ww1 peruvian rifle with the crest intact.
 
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joe n said:
Thanks Jocelyn! I appreciate your expertise. My refurb 1943 does not have the grooves on either side of the receiver....when and why did this stop?
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Have been reported that the SVT sniper suffer from shot vertical dispersion and that accuracy was not so good pass 500m. also lot of moving part in a svt making accuracy less then perfect,another thing is that the svt required more time to manufacture than a Mosin bolt action because of the tight tolerances required. The russian stopped making the side grooves somewhere at the end of 1942 since mosin sniper proven to be more accurate, easy to make too. Of the SVT with side grooves, about 51 000 were used to make sniper,they have a small notch on top rear of the receiver to lock a scope mount. SVT sniper may have not been the most accurate but the completed version served until the end of war and in good hands, proven quite effective.
Jocelyn
 
Just picked up a Nice Peruvian in trade for my M38 a couple weeks ago too. I thought the one that you bought was a Peruvian as well, but it just said Argentine...:redface: Thought they were all labeled correctly... Guess I should've known with that crest on top! :D

Here is mine:

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Mine has the Flip up sight. When did they switch to the Lange sight? Is it still safe to fire regular 7.65x53mm Argentine Spitzer ammo through it?

What a nice rifle! I had to get it as a couple of my Inlaws are from Peru! :)

Enjoy your beauty! I have been thinking about 79 too.... :)
 
The rifle you show is far rarer - yours has not had the 1912 conversion to Lange sights. Almost ALL were converted, so that's a rare rifle.
 
Claven2 said:
Just picked this one up off the list by e-mail with John.

77 40519 W2279 Mauser 1891 Argentine Rifle 7.65x53 V good $395.00
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Good eye Mr. Claven !

I also have a crested Peruvian 91 with the Lange Vizier, yours is the only other one I have seen in Canada for years.
 
Claven2 said:
The rifle you show is far rarer - yours has not had the 1912 conversion to Lange sights. Almost ALL were converted, so that's a rare rifle.
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Wow! I was just thinking how I wish mine had the Lange sights instead! :dancingbanana: :D LOL.

Well I guess I will just have to get a couple more M91's! These are such nice rifles. I love Mausers! I want all the variations... just need infinite monies!!! :p

I was able to find 8 rounds of surplus Argentine 7.65x53mm rounds amongst my gear... :redface: Just need to find a case now! :D

Is there any way you know of to tell when exactly a certain M91 was made? :confused: Not as easy as dating a K98, that's for sure!
 
Check the performance of the ammo you are getting.

The 7.65 Belgian or Turkish or Argentine or Peruvian all are the same CASING. If you are really desperate, you can stretch 7.62 NATO brass and fireform that.

Performance is IDENTICAL to the .303, just a little added velocity from that 29-inch barrel.

Matter of fact, performance is ALSO identical to the original loading for the 7.62 NATO. I have NO idea why they didn`t just go ahead and use the old Mauser cartridge. But then, of course, it Was Not Invented In The Good Ole Yew Ess of Ay and so was, by definition, vastly inferior. You can use the same powders and slugs as the .303.

Wonderful cartridge, really, and Mauser barrels should really like that new Sierra BTM bullet.

There were a small number of rifles misidentified at the sale. Listed were two Vetterli-Vitali 10.4mm rifles. These were actually a 10.35mm in Italian terms..... and I have NEEDED one for so many years that it ain`t even funny. But they had a Query (question mark) after them, so I asked when Twosteam and I were out there to pick up the Colt which she had fallen in love with (I live only 4 miles from the Valley). John wasn`t sure, so he detailed a fellow to take us over to the warehouse so I could check them out. The one rifle was a very nice AOI `70/87/915 in 6.5, so, when I got back to town, I posted that one in this thread, then told Buffdog about it a bit later. He bought it. The OTHER 10.4mm was definitely a 10.4mm..... and it was a Vitali with that super-ugly coil-spring magazine...... but it was a BEAUMONT in absolutely delicious shape. So, 2 out of 3 being not bad (as Meat Loaf would say), and needing one of these rather badly, I bought it.

So that took care of next month`s pension cheque, anyway!

But the greater part were identified correctly and the condition on ALL of them was under-rated. I still am certain that there will be a lot MORE happy campers posting on this thread.

Hope this helps.
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smellie said:
Check the performance of the ammo you are getting.

The 7.65 Belgian or Turkish or Argentine or Peruvian all are the same CASING. If you are really desperate, you can stretch 7.62 NATO brass and fireform that.

Performance is IDENTICAL to the .303, just a little added velocity from that 29-inch barrel.

Matter of fact, performance is ALSO identical to the original loading for the 7.62 NATO. I have NO idea why they didn`t just go ahead and use the old Mauser cartridge. But then, of course, it Was Not Invented In The Good Ol`Yew Ess of Ay and so was, by definition, vastly inferior. You can use the same powders and slugs as the .303.
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Wonderful cartridge, really
Hope this helps.
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Smellie. You are always a treasure trove of useful and amazing information! :)

Thank you very much!

Funny you mention the similarities to the 7.62x51 cartridge... My 8 rounds of 7.65x53mm were actually sold in a lot of 7.62NATO rounds I had!!! :D They never did look right, glad I finally picked up an M91! :dancingbanana:
 
svt1940 said:
Standard SVT, never been notched for sniper use. Previous pics give the effect that something could have been done but now we see more clearly thant nothing was altered. Let us know how's the rifle shoot. Thankyou for posting pics:)
Jocelyn
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X1. Your right, Jocelyn. I was on the same impression at the first sight. Very nice rifle, Joe!
 
Desert_Fox said:
Is there any way you know of to tell when exactly a certain M91 was made? :confused: Not as easy as dating a K98, that's for sure!
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I assume you got one of the Finnish rework ones? Take it out of the stock and look on the underside of the tang at the rear of the receiver. Usually the original manufacturer and date will be marked there, even if the original barrel shank markings were redone.

There are pictures of the various receiver tang markings on this page - http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM91R.htm
 
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