Tactical Carbine low cost build.

Nice rifle. I've always like M4 clones.
I think it's Interesting that all the "lower end" AR's are typically the ones that are expected to live through more abuse. Nobody gets a KAC or H&K as a "beater rifle". Yes they've been proven reliable, but so have like 100,000 "beater rifle" Norincos and really, how much can you ask from your rifle?


I do, that is why I don't use Norinco...

Should of just got a NEA, at least it is mostly if not all Canadian, NEA can answer all that, I'm not sure...

Most people I have met all regretted the NORC in hindsight....
 
i don't ever recall me stating i needed a high speed rifle to go on a killing spree with. It's purpose is to quickly acquire and take down targets which is exactly what it does. I bought these items to achieve what i wanted, just because its not what you want you go on to bash it. I have in no way made this rifle out to be something it is not, it is perfect for my needs, how could you dispute that? I would gladly lend it to you if you would like to test its effectiveness on yourself.

I'm not gonna argue anymore, not worth my time. Just sharing my build
 
An entertaining read to be sure. It is better to back down when found to be wrong instead of backing into a corner where there is no escape and hurling inane insults.
The Militia unit the OP belongs to may be the Lorne Scots.
It is good to serve one's country. Many Canadians do that day in and day out. They are our Firemen, Policemen, Paramedics, social workers, doctors, nurses, social workers, those who care for our elderly or those citizens on the periphery of our society. Armed Forces members from all branches and all trades also serve. All those people and many others serve. What makes that service all the more appreciated is when it is done with humility.
 
I for one will most likely buy a Norinco AR as my first AR. I have gone the surplus inexpensive route the whole way and I really enjoy taking things apart and cleaning them up and making them right. I absolutely do not have the budget for anything fancy at the moment.

I see this more as buying your first car, my first car wasn't a Mercedes, it was a beat to absolute hell '83 Volvo wagon. It was the car I've ever owned and I've even owned a $100 '69 Volvo wagon that was better. I could only afford that car at the time and I worked on it non stop to make it better. I now drive a car that is worlds better and stunk of new car when I drove it off the lot. If I had a brand new perfect car for my first I never would have learned how to fix and maintain a car properly.

Let people buy what they can afford to wet their appetite for the fancier toys. Then they can see the difference and upgrade if they see fit.
 
The OP bought a knock off of a knock off quadrail for $40 if you don't understand the differences in quadrails maybe you shouldn't be using one. Forget about the LCF because anyone switched on enough will know you're a tool, use the standard handguards then save up for a KAC RAS.

Tapco mainly plays to bubba ####ed SKS's for the price of a happy meal you could have gotten a well proven Magpul RVG.

I'm with bigred on this one.
 
In the name of keeping things inexpensive:

Instead of swapping the trigger group out, get a length of paracord and wrap it around the spur of the hammer and #### it. Pulling up as hard as you can (use common sense please) on the length of cord squeeze the trigger.

Do this a bunch. It'll smooth out the trigger pull.

Also, it'll help to put something in between the bolt catch and the hammer so you don't break your bolt catch from the hammer smacking into it. In the past I've used a few wraps of para cord or an ear plug.
 
Nice setup. I really like the paint job on the EOTech hood with the Maple Leaf stencil - nice touch.:cool:

It makes no sense to me that so many guys enjoy the Norc/Poly M14's and very, very few would ever think about dropping the 2k+ on a Springfield M1A. Yet, it's the exact opposite for AR's as so many guys spend 2k+ on a US made rifle and turn their noses up the Norc.:confused:

If my life depended on my rifle, then no I would not likely choose a Norc. But, as was correctly pointed out, AR-15's are just range queen's for 99.99% of Canadians and for that a Norc is a very economical way to get in the game and have a heck of a lot of fun.
 
UAG (not UTG) quad rail with covers - $39.95 from amazon. I don't understand why some people sell quad rails for $100+ when these are pretty much the same as all other quad rails I've used at a fraction of the cost. Easy to mount, solid construction, comes with quality covers. If you're looking for a good quality rail for a great price i recommend these.

Yeah, well thankfully some of us don't make choices based on others lack of experience.

40$ rail "system", may fit well with your norinco, but for some of us doesn't even belong on airsoft rifles.
 
I think one of the points trying to be made here is that you no longer have to drop $2K to get a quality NA made AR - Canadian NEA's are going for $300.00 more than the Chinese Norcs. I built a blue line lower, RRA trigger kit & DPPMS 18" HB free floated upper for just over $900.00. You CAN build a very decent NA rifle on a budget - and the fit & finish is much better than the difference in price, especially over the life of the rifle (when measured in 1000's of rounds) -

Think about this - the NEA is a high quality billet machined & proprietary coated rifle, with a free floated fully quad railed upper - no airsoft or cheap parts. I'm sorry - but by the time you've upgraded a Norinco to match that - you will be in the same price range and have nowhere near the fit & finish.
 
In the name of keeping things inexpensive:

Instead of swapping the trigger group out, get a length of paracord and wrap it around the spur of the hammer and #### it. Pulling up as hard as you can (use common sense please) on the length of cord squeeze the trigger.

Do this a bunch. It'll smooth out the trigger pull.

Also, it'll help to put something in between the bolt catch and the hammer so you don't break your bolt catch from the hammer smacking into it. In the past I've used a few wraps of para cord or an ear plug.
That is definitely worth trying out, thanks for the tip. The trigger isn't horrible but i would like it to be a little smoother so hopefully it helps.


I think one of the points trying to be made here is that you no longer have to drop $2K to get a quality NA made AR - Canadian NEA's are going for $300.00 more than the Chinese Norcs. I built a blue line lower, RRA trigger kit & DPPMS 18" HB free floated upper for just over $900.00. You CAN build a very decent NA rifle on a budget - and the fit & finish is much better than the difference in price, especially over the life of the rifle (when measured in 1000's of rounds) -

Think about this - the NEA is a high quality billet machined & proprietary coated rifle, with a free floated fully quad railed upper - no airsoft or cheap parts. I'm sorry - but by the time you've upgraded a Norinco to match that - you will be in the same price range and have nowhere near the fit & finish.
That was exactly the point i was trying to make, you dont have to blow all your money to get a decent AR. I have never handled an NEA but i hear good things. If my Norc blows up in my face like some nay sayers are convinced it will, i'll check our the NEA. I also hear good things about the core15


So,are you still under a grand with everything so far?

ETA: Have a look at the Magpul ASAP receiver sling plate,few dollors more, lot less sticking out the sides.
So far im around $850, that includes the rifle and absolutely everything on it. Not too bad


The OP bought a knock off of a knock off quadrail for $40 if you don't understand the differences in quadrails maybe you shouldn't be using one. Forget about the LCF because anyone switched on enough will know you're a tool, use the standard handguards then save up for a KAC RAS.

Tapco mainly plays to bubba f**ked SKS's for the price of a happy meal you could have gotten a well proven Magpul RVG.

I'm with bigred on this one.
I played around with the RVG and i didnt like how it fit in my hand, the Tapco was the perfect size for me so i went with that.
 
+1000000000000

i think one of the points trying to be made here is that you no longer have to drop $2k to get a quality na made ar - canadian nea's are going for $300.00 more than the chinese norcs. I built a blue line lower, rra trigger kit & dppms 18" hb free floated upper for just over $900.00. You can build a very decent na rifle on a budget - and the fit & finish is much better than the difference in price, especially over the life of the rifle (when measured in 1000's of rounds) -

think about this - the nea is a high quality billet machined & proprietary coated rifle, with a free floated fully quad railed upper - no airsoft or cheap parts. I'm sorry - but by the time you've upgraded a norinco to match that - you will be in the same price range and have nowhere near the fit & finish.
 
I don't own a norc AR, I have an LMT, but I think all the power to you. I hope they sell 50,000 norc ARs and 100,000 NEA ARs in Canada. The more the better.
 
I think there should be a movement for 2012 for any firearms sporting enthusiasts to by an AR all across Canada.

One per person whomever is interested.

Or just buy the lower.

Get the numbers up.
 
A $10 can of spraypaint will fix that aimpoint mount and make your rifle look a lot less ghetto.

Just my 0.02, don't mean to crap on your build. You use what you got I guess.
 
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