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Well After owning 2 fine Chinese made handguns I am going to purchase a high quality firearm (nothing against Norinco)

I have narrowed my search down to the following:

Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm - range kit

SIG P226

CZ 85 Combat

Beretta 92 A1

I really want a sig, however am thinking twice after the SIG USA / Germany thread.

From what I have read the CZ - can’t go wrong.

I have always wanted a Beretta, however have read some horror stories about QC issues with the newer models.

Smith & Wesson is probably my best choice, however I don’t know if I can get passed the fact that there is no manual /thumb safety.

Can anyone with experience regarding the above please shed some light regarding the USA SIG, USA Beretta and the M&P 9 safety features.

Thank you
 
Why not just buy a German 226?

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

No, really, you're too kind.

Would I? What? Your daughter? Well, if you insist!
 
Go for a Sig 226....Just my opinion though cause it's my next purchase. I like the Navy model personally.
 
Black slide said:
I have narrowed my search down to the following:

Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm - range kit

Smith & Wesson is probably my best choice, however I don’t know if I can get passed the fact that there is no manual /thumb safety.
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I don't know what your issues with the M&P without a manual safety would be, but I have found, both personally and professionally, that simply keeping your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot...is all the safety you really need. As well, Smith&Wesson manufactures a version of the M&P that has a thumb safety. I don't know if these guns are being imported here, but you might want to look into the possibility.

The M&P pistols are great guns. If an M&P were the only gun I could have, I'd be reasonably content.
 
Get the one that fits your hand properly. An ill fitting gun wont be accurate. Try to see if you can hold them and find one that works. SIGs are great guns but not meant for smaller hands. Few of the double stacks are. The S&W is a great gun and the interchangeable backstrap is a huge bonus. Bottom line is dont go by reputation alone, you need to 'try one on'.
Good luck
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I still recommend contacting North Sylva to ask if they can get the M&P with the thumb safety, if that's a concern for you. Just to clarify, when I said contact in the other thread I meant call. You'll have better success getting information if you call.

All the pistols you've mentioned are good choices. You should handle as many as possible before purchasing. How it feels/fit your hand is probably one of the most important considerations.

P.S. Just remember that pistols like the M&P and Glock have trigger safeties. Besides, the best "safety" is you! Never rely on mechanical safeties.
 
I personally love the P226 myself. As mentioned they are a bit big in my hands due to the mag design and there is very little to do about it. I also like the 12/4 trigger pull. I am not a 1911 fan personally.

I really want a TAC OPS version myself and intent to get one sooner than later.
 
I love the sig myself however i go to be honest and tell you it was only between the 226,the 92, and the glock. The 92 felt ok but the sig just welded into my hands,comfortable,well made. The glock 17, well i don't know what all the fuss is about(maybe just the price) cause it felt like holding a block of wood to me.Each to their own but my next pistol will be another Sig.
 
xHEADSHOTx said:
I still recommend contacting North Sylva to ask if they can get the M&P with the thumb safety, if that's a concern for you. Just to clarify, when I said contact in the other thread I meant call. You'll have better success getting information if you call.

All the pistols you've mentioned are good choices. You should handle as many as possible before purchasing. How it feels/fit your hand is probably one of the most important considerations.

P.S. Just remember that pistols like the M&P and Glock have trigger safeties. Besides, the best "safety" is you! Never rely on mechanical safeties.
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I will deffinetly call them thank you. I guess I am a little over cautious with any firearm that does not have a decocker or thumb safety.
With the M&P I don't think I could holster it with one chambered without knowing there is a second safety step aside from my finger.
 
skoal said:
92A1 how about a 92fs? I love mine and so does everybody that shoots it. Or do you really want that rail up front?
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The rail is not a must.

Ultimately I over think all my firearm purchases as I do not like the idea of spending money on something that may be a lemon down the road.
 
Black slide said:
The rail is not a must.

Ultimately I over think all my firearm purchases as I do not like the idea of spending money on something that may be a lemon down the road.
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Im going to get flamed hard here but the us army choose it over the 1911 and the sigs........just sayin
I have around 3k rounds through mine allready and not a single problem! My only complaint is the DA trigger. I love a pistol with some heft to it and this thing is great.
 
There is a reason the P226 is so widely used. It just works, and very well.

I put a ton of ammo down range without a single FTF or FTE, not one. I would trust it with my life. Sights are tall and sharp, easy to see and line up, and bang on. If it is not hitting look to the hands holding it. The mag changes are swift and easily achieved without any fumbling. The reason I like the 12/4 trigger with de-cocking lever is when it is holstered with a round in the chamber the saftey is your finger with 12lbs of pull.
 
Sigs have a military quality trigger. The double action is very hard to hold on target, and the single action has a lot of travel. I have one that I paid way too much for, and can't get much for on trade. I can't imagine how you got to page two without someone suggesting a Glock. They have the same action as the S&W, but the trigger is a bit better. Not pretty, but very practical.
 
boxcoach said:
Sigs have a military quality trigger. The double action is very hard to hold on target, and the single action has a lot of travel. I have one that I paid way too much for, and can't get much for on trade. I can't imagine how you got to page two without someone suggesting a Glock. They have the same action as the S&W, but the trigger is a bit better. Not pretty, but very practical.
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I have seriously considered a Glock 17. I have yet to shoot one. I did shoot a Glock 20 recently. It was like holding a 20 lbs crowbar tightly in one hand, then violently swinging the bar against a 300 lbs anvil while keeping a very firm grip.....can’t really say much more about it.

I have handled a SIG - felt like a Ferrari in my hand.

I have shot a 92 which was great, but that was years ago.
 
Black slide said:
I have seriously considered a Glock 17. I have yet to shoot one. I did shoot a Glock 20 recently. It was like holding a 20 lbs crowbar tightly in one hand, then violently swinging the bar against a 300 lbs anvil while keeping a very firm grip.....can’t really say much more about it.

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:D...but did you hit the bullseye? Actually from that description the G20 sounds like fun:D. I like my gen4 G17.
 
skoal said:
Im going to get flamed hard here but the us army choose it over the 1911 and the sigs........just sayin
I have around 3k rounds through mine allready and not a single problem! My only complaint is the DA trigger. I love a pistol with some heft to it and this thing is great.
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It wasn't a sole source contract, it was a government tender. Most of the time it is awarded to the lowest bidder or the one that can cover the contract in a prescribed time line.
By the way none of the special op, seals, ect use them.
 
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