Who makes a good 30 30 now?
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Has there ever been any GOOD 30-30's?
Yes indeed. The 30-30 was considered a state of the art, high powered, flat shooting cartridge when it was introduced. For those of us who use it and shoot it, we realize that compared to modern ear splitten louden boomers it has its place in target shooting and in hunting.
I have hunted both deer, bear, and moose with a 30-30. In over 40 years I have only lost one animal due to poor bullet placement. I can not remember an animal that needed a second shot to dispatch.
Bottom line, the 30-30 is over a hundred years old. It is limited by the guns that were built for it a hundred years ago, and by case capacity. That being said, in a modern gun, with modern ammo a person who can shoot it well and practices with it will have no problems bringing home game.
I seldom shoot my 30-30 with jacketed bullets any more. I use cast 180 grain Loverin bullets. Velocity is seldom over 1700 fps yet game animals like Mule deer fall with one shot and do not get up.
My 30-30, my 308, and my 30/06 all shoot the same cast bullet very accurately up to 1700 fps and a game animal can NOT tell the cartridge that bullet came from when it goes through their vitals.
The oil is being heated...
i would much rather have a fast hadling 30-30 lever gun than a clunky bolt action in a 100 yard or less semi bush type of hunting environment.
true story i was hunting with 2 friends in Sask and the terrain was pasture with small bluffs.We were driving across this pasture to go retrieve a deer that had been shot that morning when out of nowhere a nice 4 point buck appears about 80 yards in front of us.
so we stop the truck get out here the two others are fumbling with their bolt guns trying to get the magazines in, trying to find the deer in their scopes so im saying get a scope on him shoot, shoot.
well before they could do that i got fed up levelled my 30-30 on him and dropped him in his tracks.Peep sight quick target aquisition done.For fast handling in certain situations they just cant be beat!
mine always rides along with me on the quad and is close at the ready.
true story i was hunting with 2 friends in Sask and the terrain was pasture with small bluffs.We were driving across this pasture to go retrieve a deer that had been shot that morning when out of nowhere a nice 4 point buck appears about 80 yards in front of us.
so we stop the truck get out here the two others are fumbling with their bolt guns trying to get the magazines in, trying to find the deer in their scopes so im saying get a scope on him shoot, shoot.
well before they could do that i got fed up levelled my 30-30 on him and dropped him in his tracks.Peep sight quick target aquisition done.For fast handling in certain situations they just cant be beat!
mine always rides along with me on the quad and is close at the ready.
For anyone with half decent coordination, it is just as quick to insert a detachable magazine into a rifle,and cycle a round, than it is to load a single round into a tubular magazine, then cycle a round. If you are loading a single round into either action, the speed is also pretty much the same. As to whether a peep sight is quicker than a low powered scope, I find a low powered scope even quicker. Now if your two friends are too clumsy to be able to insert a detachable magazine, or they are silly enough to keep their scopes on maximum magnification, or they are using crappy scopes that aren't mounted properly, then it was their incompetence, not the rifles that made the difference in that instance.
If you are riding the atv, it had better not be ready to shoot, as riding with any ammunition in the chamber or magazine is illegal.
Just trying to illustrate how easy it is to use a good old lever gun with aperture sights.
Oh and by the way yah I keep it in my left hand loaded on the quad while I
Shift and operate the throttle with my right!
NOT.... Come on now. It's in a proper scabbard mounted beside me at the ready.
Give your head a shake please.
Oh and by the way yah I keep it in my left hand loaded on the quad while I
Shift and operate the throttle with my right!
NOT.... Come on now. It's in a proper scabbard mounted beside me at the ready.
Give your head a shake please.
If you knew how to shoot half decent you wouldn't need anything other than a 30-30
thats a joke btw no need for anyone to get their panties in a knot
kinda funny, some of these guys do wear panties, I'm pretty sure..............
I love my 9422 and would like one in a 3030 to match. But I think my first 3030 will be a nice condition bright case coloured reciever 219 if I can find one for a decent price. I have a 300 savage a 308winchester and a 300wm so I have no need for one but I have a strong desire to own one
Although it's undisputed that the change from forged to stamped parts, etc in 1964 makes the pre 64 models more desirable, weren't most of the early manufacturing issues worked out by the 70s?
There seems to be a fair number of varied centennial winchesters around, what's the opinion on these? Worth owning?
Kirk
There seems to be a fair number of varied centennial winchesters around, what's the opinion on these? Worth owning?
Kirk
I am really liking the 30-30 concept
I'd guess a 30-30 with 110gr Sierra PH is good to go out to near 250-300 yds....
If I could find a Ruger1 in 30-30, it would be hard not to buy it... or even better one of them Brownings
I'd guess a 30-30 with 110gr Sierra PH is good to go out to near 250-300 yds....
If I could find a Ruger1 in 30-30, it would be hard not to buy it... or even better one of them Brownings
My model 94 is a NWT centennial. I inherited it from my uncle and he had hunted with it and shot it extensively, as well as putting the williams peep sight on it. It obviously has no collector value now, but it's an exceptionally accurate and good looking Winchester. The 24" heavy octagon barrel is a big factor in that.
Obviously, mine was made in 1970 so it has the stamped lifter etc. It really isn't a big deal. I think the post-64 thing is very much a hype and snobbery thing. If I could choose to have a machined piece over a stamped piece I would for sure. But it's 42 years old and still hasn't broken or failed. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a post-64 winchester if it's a good deal.
I'd definitely recommend the commemorative Winchesters if you find one that isn't unfired in the box. They make great shooters.
Post 64 Winchester Mdl 94's aren't all that bad except for the sh*t-paint they called blueing. Nothing wrong with 30-30 ammo for big game either. Sometimes I find 125 grain factory stuff, great for whitetails. Bullet placement is more important than what placed it!
