What's faster Wheelgun or Semi Pistol

[bobdbldr]

Soo, here I am in my shed, smoking a stoggy and having a scotch!
I am wondering what handgun is faster of the draw, first shot only!
I figure the wheelgun, like the old 45lc SAA. I am talking empty chamber or even one in the chamber! Wadayathink?

 

[Kevin M.]

Interesting question.

I suspect barrel length, holster style, and shooters capability play more into it then the particular pistol.

That said, I am sure some guns have a better feel to them when doing quick draws. Interesting to see what some other guys say on this.

 

[unstableryan]

The trained guy with his favourite.

Here's the cockiest:
[youtube]TANC4VI8vF4[/youtube]

This guy is pretty good:
[youtube]XAnnK63PqF8[/youtube]

and this guy is just scary:
[youtube]JbC5mEc6ipE[/youtube]

He's the best:
[youtube]s3fgduPdH_Y[/youtube]

Soo, here I am in my shed, smoking a stoggy and having a scotch!
I am wondering what handgun is faster of the draw, first shot only!
I figure the wheelgun, like the old 45lc SAA. I am talking empty chamber or even one in the chamber! Wadayathink?

 

[EdGCNM]

I don't think there would be any significant difference mechanically in terms of the first shot after the draw. In terms of sustained fire, a revolver beats the semi-auto.

 

[Grizzlypeg]

Name the shooters in the 4 videos:
Bob Munden
?
?
Jerry Miculek

 

[plinker 777]

I don't think there would be any significant difference mechanically in terms of the first shot after the draw. In terms of sustained fire, a revolver beats the semi-auto.

other way around right (last sentence)...Glock 17 holds 17 rds stock. most I've ever heard with a center fire wheel gun is 7. So in terms of sustained fire, if someone holds 10 more rounds than that of the larger capacity wheel gun...

 

[Jesuswon]

other way around right (last sentence)...Glock 17 holds 17 rds stock. most I've ever heard with a center fire wheel gun is 7. So in terms of sustained fire, if someone holds 10 more rounds than that of the larger capacity wheel gun...

S&W TRP..8 shots of 357

 

[Jesuswon]

The trained guy with his favourite.

Here's the cockiest:
[youtube]TANC4VI8vF4[/youtube]

This guy is pretty good:
[youtube]XAnnK63PqF8[/youtube]

and this guy is just scary:
[youtube]JbC5mEc6ipE[/youtube]

He's the best:
[youtube]s3fgduPdH_Y[/youtube]

i looooooooooooove that lightning fast reload on that 8 shot revolver!!(love your commentary too! :0

 

[futz]

Name the shooters in the 4 videos:
Bob Munden
?
?
Jerry Miculek

1. Bob Munden
2. Jake ?
3. Marshall Luton, President of The Defensive Shooting Academy in Tulsa, OK (www.tdsatulsa.com) shoots his Glock 17.
4. Jerry Miculek

 

[GunGuy34]

Guy with the Glock is amazing. However, Jerry still blows my mind with that revolver shooting.

 

[NorthCoastBigBore]

Once you watch experienced guys shooting IPSC / IDPA with a wheelgun, you get a whole (re)newed respect for revolver hardware in general.

First shot, tough to say - it's absolutely on par if not in the wheelgunner's favour.

 

[unstableryan]

Just feels like a wheelgun would have a better handle to grab on to. Could be wrong but the curve of the handle might help over the straighter grip of a pistol.

Once you watch experienced guys shooting IPSC / IDPA with a wheelgun, you get a whole (re)newed respect for revolver hardware in general.

First shot, tough to say - it's absolutely on par if not in the wheelgunner's favour.

 

[enefgee]

Mechanically the revolver is quicker shot to shot, in every other way for the average shooter, the semi is a better choice.

 

[NorthCoastBigBore]

Can't deny the grip geometry could be a factor in favour of the revolver.

I agree that "for the average shooter, the semi is the better choice"; but for those guys who choose to work at a revolver...at our IDPA club anyway we have a couple guys who show up with revolvers that put us semi shooters on notice, if not to shame (depending on where we sit on the list - I am usually not near the top so...).

Yeah it's an age old discussion, pretty sure Jeff Cooper and Masad Ayoob (among others) have devoted volumes on this subject, but it sure is hard to lose interest in this debate! I think this discussion is MORE relevant today given (what appears to be) such an increase in interest in autos...the revolver is getting overshadowed, but does it really need to be?

 

[bobdbldr]

I have never been to a shooting contest, but after seeing these videos and hearing you guys discussing the subject, it is now on my list! Just to watch of course. Which would be a good one to go to first?

 

[EdGCNM]

other way around right (last sentence)...Glock 17 holds 17 rds stock. most I've ever heard with a center fire wheel gun is 7. So in terms of sustained fire, if someone holds 10 more rounds than that of the larger capacity wheel gun...

I think you've misunderstood the question. It's not about the raw number of shots fired, but the speed between the shots. Well, actually, the question was about the time to get off the first shot, but I'm addressing the time between shots.

The cyclic rate of a semi-auto is not determined by the shooter: it's determined by how much time it takes for the force generated by the ignition of the cartridge to cycle the action and chamber a new cartridge.

The cyclic rate of a revolver is determined only by how quickly the shooter can operate the trigger, which means it has a (theoretical) advantage. And in the case of Jerry Miculek, a very real advantage.

 

[Slavex]

the dude shooting the open gun misses on his pass after the reload. so that's a fail.

 

[rdgietz]

I agree with Slavex.... anyone can miss fast.. Jerry M is amazing to watch.. i want to be like him when i grow up.. LOL..

RDG

 

[animalamidon]

i have seen a video guys side by side one with a 1911 and the other with a .45 SA revolver and the first 6 were faster from the revolver. Both ere experienced shooters.

 

[enefgee]

Munden was good with a 1911 too (likewise Miculek)