Sask. open to poaching.

Let's all just shoot whatever we want......you guys can't be serious.and as far as I am concerned so called first nations should follow the rules just like everybody else unless they live deep in the bush and actually live off the land. We definitely need harsher punishment for all these low lifes who think they can take game as they please.
 
ran into a guy in the bush last fall hunting for moose with his buddy, the buddy had a tag on the draw but he had no idea what the tag was for, bull cow or calf :mad: but he had a treaty card so its all ok :mad:

that zone is draw only and either bull or calf no cow draws as they are trying to allow the population to grow. :mad: takes about 3-4 years to get a bull draw and 2-3 for a calf.

and I know some guys that seem to get a draw every year :rolleyes: or thats what they tell you whenyou meet them, on the road where they are hunting.
 
I would be willing to bet my next paycheck that for every legal animal harvested there is another that is poached or taken illegally.

Lots of locals that still figure it is their right to hunt whatever, whenever and however they want.

Kelly, when I was a kid, growing up in the Saskatchewan boondocks, that's exactly what people did. And they didn't buy a licence either. They needed the meat to survive on.
A couple years ago I was talking to a life-long resident of SK, whom I knew when we were both kids. He said he had never seen so many deer in SK as he sees now. He told me of all the number of road kill deer he recently saw on a 60 mile trip to PA.
He also told me that not many SK residents were hunting deer any more, because it cost so much. Looking at dollars and cents value, he said it just didn't pay.
So, I wonder why so many poach the deer, often on their own property?
 
I gotta say. Nothing has changed in 30years I guess. When I was a kid, the COs barely went into the woods and if a complaint went in concerning certain areas, they did NOT investigate. They knew that the same people poaching, would not actually hesitate to shoot them. While I would never begrudge anyone meat for their family, I think leaving the cow is reprehensible. Having bagged my share, I know how much meat that is.
People do not care, if we did, we would petition for stricter enforcement of laws. But that is not possible in our liberal, no one is responsible for their own actions society.
 
ran into a guy in the bush last fall hunting for moose with his buddy, the buddy had a tag on the draw but he had no idea what the tag was for, bull cow or calf :mad: but he had a treaty card so its all ok :mad:

that zone is draw only and either bull or calf no cow draws as they are trying to allow the population to grow. :mad: takes about 3-4 years to get a bull draw and 2-3 for a calf.

and I know some guys that seem to get a draw every year :rolleyes: or thats what they tell you whenyou meet them, on the road where they are hunting.

Manitoba Conservation has closed several moose hunting areas and the draws for elk and moose have become much more restrictive. Now the shortened whitetail season with lowered bag limits. All of the above applies to licensed hunters only of course.
I have no issue with closing areas or shortening seasons in an attempt to have the population recover, but this must apply to all hunters.

For our NDP government to proudly report they're doing their best to "manage wildlife" is a full blown and outright lie. How's it possible to manage the population when the largest usergroup has no seasons or bag limits? :confused:
 
I hunted deer in Manitoba last fall and saw no shortage.

Im thinking that the deer tag quotas have been reduced to support the new native,.. not cree, or ojibway, but the new metis... no real status untill recently, but what the hell, they have native and french blood, so let them go at it and see what respect they get for using their rights.:confused:
 
H4831: I hear the line, "It's too much money nowadays for a deer licence", as well. If I know the whiner can take a bit of a poke, I'll ask how much does it cost to go to a football game in Regina? Or I'll keep quiet and just wonder how much his big, fancy 4x4 pickup cost.

There certainly isn't any real shortage of whitetail deer around here. More meat is wasted from cars and trucks hitting them than from anybody shooting them. The whiners also like to complain about the Aboriginal people shooting deer out of season. Odd, isn't it, that there are more deer than in the past, when the locals "have shot them all".

Shooting and leaving a cow moose is a terrible waste. A quick call to somebody else would have been a reasonable solution. Piddly fines won't stop that kind of attitude.
 
Yukon is not!

It's like that all across the country. Heavier fines and jail time should be mandatory for poachers.

Three guys up here were just found guilty of shooting caribou in a closed zone. The judge ordered the following:

$5000 fine for each hunter.

Confiscation of two ATVs used in the hunt.

Loss of hunting privileges for next five years.

The lesson: don't come to the Yukon and poach game.

Ted
 
Three guys up here were just found guilty of shooting caribou in a closed zone. The judge ordered the following:

$5000 fine for each hunter.

Confiscation of two ATVs used in the hunt.

Loss of hunting privileges for next five years.

The lesson: don't come to the Yukon and poach game.

Ted

Sounds good to me, If you know the judge can you ask him to come to Ontario? for a while anyway, someone needs to put the fear of jesus into poachers down here.
 
I really don't want to get started on what the real problem in Manitoba is. Suffice it to say it starts at the top. I fear that the next year or two may be the last for deer hunting in this province for a lot longer than I have left to hunt. We have SCI, MWF and all the local fish and game clubs giving input and feedback. We have the Conservation department game surveys every year and yet the wolf and coyote problems were never addressed in a meaningful way. Now we have a real crash happening and reactive game management. And the unlicensed hunter issue......pffft.
 
If I own land and don't allow anyone to hunt it but take game off that land for my freezer, how does that hurt anyone else?:stirthepot2:

You don't own the animals on the land though. Unless you own a whole pile of land then some of your animals are moving from your land to mine which affects me. I had a MNR bear guy ( from the old generation that actually went out into the field , hunts and is aware of what goes on in the bush) tell me that he had several bears that they tagged for tracking purposes move over 150 km to a food source. Unless you own 150 Km straight-line of property some of your animals are moving to others property. Even if you do migratory animals are going to be leaving your property as well. Every duck that you blast in the spring is a duck that wont have a brood and wont produce fall flights going over my property. Thats how it hurts anyone
 
Thats funny. I get an infraction for making a joke about LEO's but everyone else including the m__s can bash ethnic groups. The aboriginals are the root of all evil in this country. They are poaching all the wildlife and killing animals just to let them rot. My family comes from here yours doesn't If you don't like the laws of this country, go back to europe or wherever you come from!
 
In BC they take whatever you have with you until you sort it out in court. Punishment by process.


I remember the guy drinking on his boat and illegally fishing they had a small boat to talk to boater’s life jackets ect type of things. Went over to them to give them a minor ticket for booze on the boat and give them a warning about the fishing but then they ran around the lake... The irony was were are you going to go on a lake with no exit. The guy dropped a guy off to grab the truck as they were trying to get away in the meantime the cops were told and were waiting at the top of the boat launch waiting for them to load the boat and just blocked the road. The CFO came out and said hey I was just going to give you a warning about the illegal fishing and write a ticket for the open booze but you ran. They ended up taking the brand new boat and trailer. With the truck they said they normally don't do this for fishing but you ran and made them chase you so that’s why they took it. They were also arrested for running from the cops. The CFO was like man that guy was such a jerk. I dealt with him allot and he's really nice and normally only gives warnings mostly for safety stuff.
 
Thats funny. I get an infraction for making a joke about LEO's but everyone else including the m__s can bash ethnic groups. The aboriginals are the root of all evil in this country. They are poaching all the wildlife and killing animals just to let them rot. My family comes from here yours doesn't If you don't like the laws of this country, go back to europe or wherever you come from!

Go back to Mongolia, or wherever you came from.:jerkit:
 
Thats funny. I get an infraction for making a joke about LEO's but everyone else including the m__s can bash ethnic groups. The aboriginals are the root of all evil in this country. They are poaching all the wildlife and killing animals just to let them rot. My family comes from here yours doesn't If you don't like the laws of this country, go back to europe or wherever you come from!

It's not metis/aboriginal bashing we're just disgusted with having two sets of laws in this province and country in general.
If you consider "equality for all" a racist comment, then there's something wrong with you, not me.

If you want to hunt in your traditional fashion with no seasons or bag limits in what you call your country, that's fine, but give me back my pickup/house/spotlight/horse/rifle,etc. Sound fair?
 
Thats funny. I get an infraction for making a joke about LEO's but everyone else including the m__s can bash ethnic groups. The aboriginals are the root of all evil in this country. They are poaching all the wildlife and killing animals just to let them rot. My family comes from here yours doesn't If you don't like the laws of this country, go back to europe or wherever you come from!



Give me a break !!! Indians are the only people that get everything for free in this country and still b@tch about it. Free land, free housing, free schooling, free food, no taxes, the list goes on and on... Time to get over it.. WTF are traditional hunting rights?? why because Indians generations ago would survive off of hunting game? Big deal, they don't have to anymore because they are given everything from the government which supplies it to them thanks to people like me working and paying taxes. Take some of your free money and go to Sobeys... I'll go back to wherever my people came from as soon as you go back to chewing leather and making moccasins.
 
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