New Semi-Auto Shotgun

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ndb86 said:
What company is this? I'd like to know where NOT to send my resume.
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No doubt, what kind of a boss slams his employees on a public forum. Brutal.

Anyway, too bad about this thing getting the R, it really chaps me that these laws are so out to lunch. Does it really come down to how a gun looks? Is there a chance that this thing could still go non-R?

Ty
 
This company needs to take off the AR15 looking kit and dress it up like a regular semi-auto hunting gun. Then, once it is available to buy in Canada, offer the scary dress-up kit when the original gun is deemed as non-restricted. Just like the 10/22 kits. These classifications are getting out of hand. When are they going to start in with all of the guns that are dressed up to look like prohibs or restricteds? This is going down the "scary precedence road" right quickly!!!!
 
Smitsauce said:
This company needs to take off the AR15 looking kit and dress it up like a regular semi-auto hunting gun. Then, once it is available to buy in Canada, offer the scary dress-up kit when the original gun is deemed as non-restricted. Just like the 10/22 kits. These classifications are getting out of hand. When are they going to start in with all of the guns that are dressed up to look like prohibs or restricteds? This is going down the "scary precedence road" right quickly!!!!
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there is no "kit", it is all part of the design.
 
-1898 said:
you could just buy those bells that attach to jacket or pack with a safety pin and get a whistle.
I don't allow any of my crew to carry and I work in remote northern BC mountains
I also don't allow them bear spray either because i don't want it going off accidentally in a helicopter or dropped and punctured on sharp rock fogging their dumb asses.
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This is guy full of BS, because if he actually worked with helicopters, he'd know you cant have pressurized cylinders of any kind in the helicopter. Only stored in boxes that are pinned on the skids of the chopper.
 
Am I missing something?

CanAm already released the FRT, and it is restricted.

I thought he wasn't interested in bringing them in as restricted.


INSPECTION REPORT
AKDAL
MODEL MKA 1919

SUBJECT OF INSPECTION
Quantity one, Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 guage, semi-automatic shotgun, serial number 10.00593 manufactured by Ucyildiz S Arms Inc.

PURPOSE
The inspection of the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA semi-automatic shotgun, serial number 10.00593, was for the purpose of a legal classification determination. The question being whether it is a restricted firearm or a non restricted firearm.

BACKGROUND
On 2010-06-04 Specialized Firearms Support Services (SFSS), received a parcel containing the subject AKDAL, MKA 1919, 12 ga shotgun serial number 10.00593, which was shipped by Canada Ammo, a distributor located in British Columbia that wishes to import into Canada for commercial resale the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotguns, manufactured by Ucyildiz S Arms ind.co.Ltd; (full name - Ucyildiz Silah San, Ltd), locatedin Istanbul, Turkey.

CONCLUSIONS

The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 , subject of this inspection, is a gas piston operated variant or modified version of an M-16 rifle. The changes to the mechanism being those in scale and design required to permit the firearm to function as a gas operated, semi automatic firearm utilizing 12 GA X 3” Calibre center-fire shotgun cartridges, rather than the center-fire, gas operated mechanism of the M16 / AR15 firearms’ 223 REM rifle caliber cartridges. The Colt/Armalite “platform” has been adapted to many different calibers; from 22 LR rim-fire to 50 Calibre Beowulf, and while the 12 GA X 3” caliber is an unusual chambering for this type of firearm, it stands with approximately thirteen other non-typical calibers.
A partial list of calibers of cartridge in which the Colt / Armalite “platform” has been manufactured or adapted to discharge follows: - 6.8 SPC, 50 Beowulf, 9MM LUGER, 40 S&W, 45 AUTO, 10MM AUTO, 458 SOCOM, 22 LR rim-fire, 204 RUGER, 7.62X39 Russian, 7.62MM NATO, 308 Win, 223 REM, 5.56MM NATO, 338 LAPUA & 300 Fireball.
The mounting holes to mate the upper and lower receiver are located in such a manner that a typical Colt M - 16 / AR 15 split receiver cannot be mated to either the upper or lower receiver of the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA X 3” semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593
4. The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 gage semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 was found to be a variant or modified version of an M-16 rifle under the Regulations appended to The Criminal Code of Canada S.84 Part 2, Restricted Firearms, Former Restricted Weapons Order Para 2. “The firearm of the design commonly known as the M-16 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the (sub paragraph), (w) any 22-calibre rimfire variant”.

5. The Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA X 3 “ Calibre, semi-automatic shotgun serial number 10.00593 was found to be a restricted firearm.

6. The FRT record that applies to the Akdal, Model MKA 1919, 12 GA X 3 “, Calibre, semi-automatic shotgun, serial number 10.00593 is FRT # 132450.

This completes the inspection for legal classification of the - AKDAL, MODEL MKA 1919, SERIAL NUMBER - 10.00593.

Attached you will find a pdf copy of the FRT record for this firearm..

Thank you for permission to utilize images of your firearm on the Firearms Reference Table.

William Etter

William (Bill) Etter
Senior Firearms Technologist
Specialized Firearms Support Services
Firearms Investigative & Enforcement Services Directorate
RCMP - CFP
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Thats why I asked..............I didnt feel like reading through 35 pages of responses to find out what was happening with this
 
Don't you just love the way they BS people - if it has a piston it isn't an M16, if it can't take an AR upper, it isn't an M16 - what makes this particular shotgun a variant of the M16? The way it looks.
 
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