AIA 10 Round magazines in Norinco M305

I'm just going to throw this out there, after reading this thread.

But don't we have companies that can manufacture mags as members on this forum ?

Perhaps if we brought this loophole to their attention they can be convinced to bake up some "clearly labeled" hotcakes.

Nothing fancy, just 10 rounders identical to the AIA mag. As a 305 owner myself, I'd be happy with that. And there are a tonne enough 305 owner to make it worth it I think.

This is a FINE idea. You are right, someone stands to make a boat load of money as long as they arent greedy. 99 % of owners would buy at least one, and some many more. I would suggest the mag be stamped heavily just so there can be no claims that you made it yourself in the kitchen. To have a 10 round mag at the range would be awesome..........not as nice as 20 but still nice....Havin a flasback now "With a magazine of 20 rounds....LOAD"
Spend half the day at the range loading the thing....grrrr
 
M305 rounds vs AIA rounds

Sorry guys to sound a little slow on this, but I thought the 305 had a longer round than the AIA. Is this true? How could you use the AIA magazine in the 305? Also, where might one be able to find some AIA magazines?
 
I wouldn't hold yer breath waitin for more AIA mags to be made or imported.. I'd be focusing energy on lobbying to do away with current mag restrictions. Far more likely to succeed in my opinion.

But, if one was enterprising enough to fly over to China and throw some cash around.... It would be simple enough to have them stamp the existing M305 base plates with made for the AIA 7.62x51 and omit the square hole at the front of the mag.
Done like dinner. Then import them of course.... Which is where the largest hurdles will be
 
Made for AIA Riffle

You know, if moregunssupply had been smart about it, he would have at least imported a couple rifles with the magazines
 
this=good idea

when did you switch back to 45acpking anyways?

I am no longer using the M14Doctor name as of July 1. I'm also not a dealer here anymore so can't say too much about the business, but still going strong ;)
45ACPKING is my original CGN name so ..... The name might have changed.... But it's still the same Thomas you've all been dealing with.
 
The name might have changed.... But it's still the same Thomas you've all been dealing with.

I get it, you're all about the bromance

It's alright, I still remember that time we dressed up like skeletons and drank patron

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Four final comments from me on this thread, and then I'm done:

1. Personal credentials to talk: No, I am not 'new' and 'lacking knowledge', thank you very much.

FWIW, I've been in the firearms law business since before Bill C-68. When Bill C-68 was first proposed, I was one of the founding members of one of the first provincial firearms owners groups organized to fight it: the Saskatchewan Responsible Firearms Owners.

Actually, I was the one who convinced the group to use the word "Responsible" in our name, to force the news media and also our anti-gun opponents to link 'firearms owner' with 'responsible'. Until then, the antis had been waging a quite successful all-out propaganda campaign to paint all firearms owners as rabid, wild-eyed mentally unbalanced gun nuts. Forcing the anti-gunners like Wendy Cukier and Allan Rock to call us 'responsible' did two things: it put a crimp in their propaganda effort and it made them practically choke with rage whenever they had to force the word out.

During the C-68 fight, I helped author many of the papers put out by the firearms groups, especially on issues of rights and constitutional points. My brother and I also put together an estimate for SRFO of the probable cost of the proposed Long Gun Registry to counter the Liberal government's claim that the program would only cost $17M ($15M of which would be recovered from fees). Our estimate of the LGR cost was a minimum of $250M and more probably close to $1B. Even many of our fellow lobbyists raised an eyebrow at those figures. In the end, we were not too high but about $1B too low; but SRFO came closer to the true cost than anyone else in Canada. Oh yes, and I testified about the Bill in front of the House of Commons committee.

So when it comes to firearms law, I have been at the game for a very looong time.

2. Re the LAR-15 mag:

In my first post I said I hadn't had a chance to examine the LAR-15 or AIA magazines personally, but gave a general warning about what should be on any mag if you wanted to use it. Whereupon a couple people became very huffy about that advice.

In my second post, after you commented that the LAR-15 mag was marked, I said: "If the LAR magazines are very clearly marked as being for a LAR, and you have documentation available to carry with you that will make it clear to the stupidest schmuck that the LAR is a pistol and therefore the magazine is legal, then great: that covers my point nicely."

After which, you posted the above comment.

Since then, I have had a chance to look at a LAR-15 mag, and it is very clearly marked - in what appears to be a roll-on ink label - "Model LAR-15 Pistol Magazine ... Capacity 10 Rounds". So, yes, I agree, it is very nicely marked, and if you carry the RCMP documentation about pistol mags with you, then you should with reasonable luck avoid any difficulties.

I would add one caveat to that: if time and contact with gun oils and cleaning solvents causes that inked label to become illegible, then you had better consider that magazine spent and replace it.

3. I have not had any luck finding either an AIA magazine or a picture of one, so I can't comment about its markings. However, I will reiterate my original warning that, if you want to use an over-capacity mag in your semi-auto rifle, it had better be clearly stamped as a pistol or bolt-action rifle mag. And even then, depending on what police officer / Crown prosecutor you are dealing with, you may still have more problems than you care to believe possible.

4. Pepper spray

Why do I still stand by my first warning, and reiterate it in paragraph 3? Because of 20 years of professional experience with the treatment of pepper spray by police and prosecutors.

As you are all weapon aficionados and obviously thoroughly familiar with the weapons sections of the Criminal Code and Firearms Act, the accompanying regulations, and the resulting case law, I assume you know that there are two kinds of pepper spray under Canadian law: evil pepper spray and good pepper spray.

Evil pepper spray is intended for use against humans. It is a 'prohibited weapon' under the Criminal Code and is completely 100% illegal for everyone except the police and military.

Good pepper spray is intended for use against animals. It is 100% legal, completely non-restricted, and even children can own it.

How do you tell the difference between the two? If you find yourself on the business end of it, you probably can't. A chemical comparison may not help much either. However, 'good' pepper spray is manufactured solely for personal protection against animals, such as dogs and bears, by manufacturers who not only mark it for this purpose, they also register it as such with the Department of Agriculture under the Pest Control Products law and regulations. As such, 'good' pepper spray is assigned a serial number by the government under the PCP regulations, and the manufacturer marks this PCP# on the can. The pepper spray is then officially classified in law as an 'agricultural chemical' and is legal for commercial sale in farm supply, camping and sporting goods stores across the nation.

How long has this distinction in pepper sprays been 'well known' and 'well established' in Canadian law? Over 20 years.

So if you decide to go jogging or walking with a can of PCP#-marked 'dog spray' in your pocket for protection against 'stray dogs', you shouldn't have ANY trouble at all, right?

Right ... unless you run into a police officer who doesn't like you. In that case, your chances of being arrested and charged for 'possession of a prohibited weapon, to wit pepper spray' are ... rather high.

And you know something? You can point out the PCP number on the can, wave the regulations at the officer, and the JP at the station. But I will almost guarantee that if you are arrested on Friday night, you will still sit in jail until court Monday before finally being released on conditions pending trial, because you have been arrested on 'serious weapons charges.' And you will probably find your name in the Monday evening newspaper under that heading: 'Local man arrested on serious weapons charge'. And, if you are very unlucky, even after pointing out the PCP# and the regulations to the prosecutor, you may still have to actually go to trial to clear yourself.

How do I know this? Because in the last 20 years, this has happened to several hundred people in my province. The ones I represented, were acquitted. Those who had other lawyers or no lawyers ... may not have been so lucky. Multiply that across Canada, and the number of people arrested and charged for possessing a 'prohibited weapon' that was completely legal is probably in the thousands.

So don't tell me it can't happen with your legal 10-round magazine in your rifle.

But....but...but you've only been on CGN for a short time! How could you possibly know anything that the couch potato veterans on this forum don't!?

Mind is blown! :rolleyes:
 
it could be possable to make these mags

AIA had both 10rd and 20rd mags from what some of my german friends say(they made there some for sale over there at like 68 euros) it should not be hard a mig welder at low temp or a tig welder (ive done car body work for about 5 years should be easy)
 
it could be possable to make these mags

AIA had both 10rd and 20rd mags from what some of my german friends say(they made there some for sale over there at like 68 euros) it should not be hard a mig welder at low temp or a tig welder (ive done car body work for about 5 years should be easy)

If you make and design the magazine for only the AIA and it happens to work and fit another firearm it would be fine.
 
Realistically, one would be looking at ballpark 50,000.00 to pay for the material, programing, laser cutting , programming and machining of the press dies, custom press and a quality spot/plug welder.
 
Realistically, one would be looking at ballpark 50,000.00 to pay for the material, programing, laser cutting , programming and machining of the press dies, custom press and a quality spot/plug welder.

call me old fashioned but these things where done before all that stuff it can be without it now

i have made a few 5rd sten mags before for a friend no problem all it takes is a few shop made dies

because the design is they way it is you dont have to make a follower or spring

all i would need now is a AIA mag to reverse engineer and someone with a AIA rifle for testing
 
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