10/22 MP5-alike

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Howdy fellas.
I'm looking for my next "project" (waiting for parts, etc. for other projects), so I thought "why not make an MP5?"

What I was thinking is getting a 10/22, either shorten the barrel or get a new short barrel and keep the entire assembly just over the 26" OAL regulation. (Or is it 28" OAL?) Either way- from there, get and shell out either a BB or airsoft style MP5, and modify the body to fit over the 10/22, which would be classed NR.

Shouldn't be an issue, right? Or would it be? I would have to think not, as the MP5 airsoft or airgun body in itself is not prohibited, and as well, SHOULD be classed as a stock, correct?
 
min OAL is 660mm (25.98") so 26" is good to go. As for the barrel, you can only cut about a half inch off of a factory sporter barrel. Min length for barrels shortened after manufacturing is 457mm (17.99") So if short is what you want then aftermarket is what you need. I dont think it would be as simple as dropping in the 10/22 action. The trigger sits way below the ejection window on the MP5, you would have to do quite a bit of external modding just to make it work and look half-right. Im not saying it cant be done at all, just that it has some challenges that may derail the build pretty quick. As for legal issues you are in the clear slapping any dressup kit except a bullpuip stock onto any gun. If overall length becomes less than 660mm it is reclassed as restricted. FWIW stocks are not classified at all. Theres legal stocks and aftermarket bullpup stocks, only one is illegal ;)
 
After market barrels come in all sizes for 10/22.

Your issue at hand is the 22s action is wider then an airoft body.

A guy made his own mp5 like body but man it looks really odd and not right.

Im working right now on putting my mossberg plinkster into an airsoft AR15 body, know cops will flip s**t when its complete and taken outdoors, If the Ar15 body fails im trying an AK, last resort a G36 body with minor bedding fits.
 
IM_Lugger said:
should be fine but you cant cut the barrel below 18.5" or it'll be a prohib device.
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We just went over this in B&G shotguns: You can cut any barrel down to 457 mm which is 17.99". Cutting a semiauto centerfire this short makes it restricted, all others remain non restricted unless OAL becomes less than 660mm.
Mr.S said:
how is it that my 10/22 compact with its 16" barrel is all good ?
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Because your barrel was manufactured at that length. If you cut it at all it becomes prohib. You can also install it on a 10/22 carbine legally. Same as Dlask, NEA, Green Mountain, etc etc etc barrels being swapped into all the project guns around here. They are legal if they are manufactured at that length.
 
It seems the trouble may lie in two aspects

1) Like Supernova mentioned- some deep thinking would be required to get this working because of the location of the trigger.
2) Actually getting an airsoft/airgun MP5. Local CanTire doesn't have them, and online only has the folding style stock. I'd defintely want the telescopic style stock, just because to me, thats the traditional way an MP5 should look like.
 
The receiver of the 10/22 is a very thick piece.

Good luck fitting it inside any airsoft body.

A savage 64, or Mossberg plinkster might work better, but barrel length is a limiting factor as u would have to cut and crown to 18 1/2 inches and it may be too long for your liking.
 
Here is my poor mans version of an MP5

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=785419

There is another CGNer who is working on a much better, more authentic version. But it looks like its a lot of work and using a milling machine.


It is a problem with the 10/22 being such a wide reciever, then any chassis or stock needs to be even wider.

Still its enough to frighten liberals, and after all, isn't that part of the allure of black rifles??
 
surfclod said:
Here is my poor mans version of an MP5

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=785419

There is another CGNer who is working on a much better, more authentic version. But it looks like its a lot of work and using a milling machine.


It is a problem with the 10/22 being such a wide reciever, then any chassis or stock needs to be even wider.

Still its enough to frighten liberals, and after all, isn't that part of the allure of black rifles??
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I like your setup there, but the stock is not really to my taste. You said in your thread that you used a 10/22, and a Specter Arms S54 chassis. May I ask where you got it?

Ideally i'd like a stock like this: (56k death)
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EDIT: I have so many ideas going through my head, it hurts. That being said, of all my ideas- only one of them is more feasible than the others, and doesn't have the "i might blow up in your face" mantra.
The one I'm talking about is this: You got your 10/22, install into an NEA or similar chassis, install or cut down barrel, custom make the telescopic stock I want (I have an idea of how I could fab that up) and get a Pro-Mag AA9-22 mag, to fit into the magwell, and presto voila- MP5- ish?
 
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Yeah- although the fore-end is reminsent of an AR platform.
My other two options where: Get an airgun MP5, gut it out, loose the fixed stock, and build some sort of linkage between the two trigger mechanisms OR get an airsoft Uzi, chop off the grip, relocate the grip, and shimmy in the 10/22 assembly.

As I stated, I'm leaning towards getting an AR receiver for the 10/22 and building like that, but what type of fore-end would look like an MP5?
 
djmay71 said:
Update: I'm working on photoshopping up a demo, but I think I got something that may work.
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Good luck with your project.

I went with the buttstock style that I did because with a 9" barrel there was no way that I could go with a telescopic buttstock and remain over 26" OAL. A non-functioning telescopic buttstock just doesnt do it for me, plus in order to give the MP5 impression I wanted to duplicate (as much as I could) the distinctive MP5 shape. It amazing how much the profile will effect the appearance of the gun, my first attempt made it look more like an FN FAL than the MP5 I was aiming for.
 
The ruger 10/22/ mp5 navy has haunted my dreams and cost me several hours on a mill.

Here are some thoughts. The mp5 is such a different shape from the ruger that to make a close duplicate, u will need trigger linkages etc...

The ruger is quite wide and trying to fit an airsoft over it will be next to impossible.

There are some kits that will get you an approximate shape and size of an mp5 five but certainly not replicas.


For what it's worth, here is what I came up with.

First, my concept drawing. This was done over a photo of ruger and takes into account trigger position etc...

navy.jpg


Next image is a photo of the bare aluminum chassis with it photoshopped black and accessories added with photoshop. I guess it is a look into the future of how I hope it turns out.

finalresults.jpg


After many hours of milling, here is the chassis without the ruger inside. A few small parts, some finishing then anodizing and it will be complete. Hoping for mid-sept completion.
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This has been a fun project and it is starting to take shape. It will never be a perfect replica because of the difference in shape of the two guns. Knowing how much work was involved, not sure I would have started but I'm starting to see light at the end of the tunnel. If you can make an mp5 out of ruger, i say go for it.
 
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