Safe Storage Pistol

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Hi Everyone,

Just got my first pistol and want to make sure I am storing it safely. I have a safe with ammo in it. I then have the pistol in its box with a lock on it but not a trigger lock. Is this good enough?

When transporting the pistol is the lock on the box enough or do I need a trigger lock? I ask because a trigger lock will not allow the box to close.

Thanks T
 
If it's a safe and not just a cabinet, then no trigger lock is required. In transport, it must have the trigger lock. I know what you mean- none of the original hard shell cases will accommodate a a trigger lock, so I bought cheap foam lined pistol cases and put a small lock on those. Just don't leave the pistol in those kinds of cases- they hold moisture and you'll end up with rust.
 
Storing

Unload and lock your firearms!

Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearms.

  • Attach a secure locking device so the firearms cannot be fired and lock them in a cabinet, container or room that is difficult to break into; or
  • Lock the firearms in a vault, safe or room that was built or modified specifically to store firearms safely.

Transporting

  • Unload the firearms; and
  • Attach secure locking devices to the firearms; and
  • Lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container; and
  • Obtain an Authorization to Transport (call 1-800-731-4000).

Leaving Any Class of Firearm in an Unattended Vehicle

  • Lock non-restricted firearms and locked containers carrying restricted or prohibited firearms in the trunk or in a similar lockable compartment.
  • If the vehicle does not have a trunk or lockable compartment, put firearms and firearm containers out of sight inside the vehicle and lock the vehicle.
  • If you are in a remote wilderness area and cannot lock your non-restricted firearms inside your vehicle, unload them and put them out of sight. Attach a secure locking device to the firearms unless they are needed for predator control.
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rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
 
Who was your RPAL instructor? They need a swift kick in the boy bits if you werent taught this stuff as it is basic to say the least. As for transport in a soft case, yes its fine providing the firearm is trigger locked and the soft case is also locked.
 
My understanding is that a trigger lock is not prescribed by the law. I believe any secure locking device may be used, so in your plastic carry case a cable type of lock, such as is often provided with rifles and shotguns, may fit throught the open action and still be flat enough to fit in your plastic container. I have seen the words "trigger lock" used in brochures offered by the police, but believe it is their wish / interpretation, not the law.

I have also seen the wording "a secure locking device which renders the firearm inoperable" for what is needed and wonder if firearms with integral locks, such as for example on modern S&W revolvers, would qualify as a "secure locking device"? But an uninformed police officer may make life difficult if he/she insists on a trigger lock. I have previously asked for advice from three RCMP officers at their stand at an outdoor show in Toronto and got three different answers, all wrong, as it later turned out to be!
 
tpirovol said:
So in a safe ammo and gun can be together unlocked. On the way to the range in a locked bag or case with a trigger lock. Ammo locked in a separate case?

Also would what I bought be considered an adequate safe?
http://www.sentrysafe.com/Products/4...tion_Fire-Safe
Thanks T
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Your restricted can be in the same safe together and without a trigger lock. However, you CANNOT have the magazine/ammo IN the firearm at any time other than at the range when in use. If you have a magazine fed restricted, the magazine can have ammo in it, just not IN the firearm and similarly, if you have a revolver, you can have ammo in a speedloader but not IN the revolver in the same safe. And yes, that safe would meet the requirements to be compliant.
 
In a safe no secondary lock is required.

As mentioned, it does not have to be a trigger lock but just a secure locking device that renders the gun inoperable. I've got a padlock on the magwell. Of my AR and that's legal. In my opinion it's an even "super happyfun liberal" choice since it prevents the rifle from even being assembled, or having a magazine inserted.
There are also locks called Magvault, that mimic the shape of the magazine and lock into the mag well to render the gun inoperable. There's also a brand that locks into the chamber or a pistol, and you unload it through the muzzle. It's the smallest lock I've seen, and will fit any case that the gun does.


Also, there is no functional limit on how much ammunition you may possess. Though at a certain point it may break through the floor, or topple over and bury you.
 
Shawn, your link is broken. I think this is it: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-209/page-3.html#h-4

STORAGE OF RESTRICTED FIREARMS

6. An individual may store a restricted firearm only if

(a) it is unloaded;

(b) it is

(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and

(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in

(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or

(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.
 
Perfect thanks everyone. Last question anyone have any recommendations for a case that will close with a trigger lock soft or hard for transport to the range?

Thanks T
 
tpirovol said:
Perfect thanks everyone. Last question anyone have any recommendations for a case that will close with a trigger lock soft or hard for transport to the range?

Thanks T
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Well, Pelican and Boyt both make very sturdy cases . However, even the smallest I've seen is still pretty beefy. Not cheap, but there's a large variety of sizes to choose from and it should last longer than you do. I have the http://www.boytharness.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=40139&CatId={6D8C1062-2237-46AF-B8B8-67CD1821965C} Single Long gun case, and the Single Handgun case http://www.boytharness.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=40134&CatId={E0E911FF-50FE-4BCF-9795-0A644874C358}. They are beefy though, the long gun one will give you a good workout but you can probably drop it out of a plane without it breaking.
 
tpirovol said:
Perfect thanks everyone. Last question anyone have any recommendations for a case that will close with a trigger lock soft or hard for transport to the range?

Thanks T
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As mentioned, Pelican cases are sweet but if you're on a tight budget you can check out Plano brand cases. Pretty much any pistol case with a foam interior should work and not form-fitted molded cases like most OEM cases that come with the pistolas. You can also get use soft cases or any case for that matter as long as they are "made of an opaque material and is of such strength, construction and nature that it cannot readily be broken open or into or accidentally opened during transportation."
 
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