.17 Super Magnum

Yawn... Why couldn't they do a .22 supermag or .32 and have some weight behind it? Cant hunt anything humainly bigger than you could with a .17hmr so all its good for in my opion is target.
 
I live in a "no center fire" rifle area and have been dithering about getting a .22 magnum for coyotes. I'm going to keep holding off until this comes out it could be just the thing and a lot of fun to try a new cartridge out.

Mind you, the wolves seem to be kicking the coyotes butts lately in my area, so coyotes might not be so much of a problem for a few years.
 
super7 said:
With any luck, maybe this will help lower the cost of 17hmr.... ?
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How would you think that would work?

A decent (or even, half decent) .17 cal bullet, is the most part of the cost to produce the ammo. Making yet another .17 cal round, is not going to drive the price down, as they are not as cheap to produce as a .22 lead slug, no matter what.

Cheers
Trev
 
Fassteel said:
You fellows only shoot inexpensive rifles and " cheap " ammo in all of your guns? Some of you fellows must be waterfowlers $17 for 25 shots, are there a lot of vermin targets in NS where you would shoot a brick of 17HMR in one day?
Does the gol darn rifle industry have cater to what you guys can afford? FS
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You GD right if they want us to buy them. What happened to your common sense? There is more to firearms than hunting in case you haven't been out of the house lately.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee, if people don't want them or can't afford them the only person that is going to buy them is you.
 
I wonder how much larger the Win .27 cal propellant cartridges measure at the face compared to 17 HMR or 22 Magnum.

Another forum had a fella find a price of the new round; $16.25 for a box of 50.

Performance wise it seems to be halfway between the 17 HMR and the 17 Hornet in the ballistics department.


Since selling my 17 HMR I have been wanting to replace it with something with a bit more range, thought of the 17 Hornet but cost is nearly the same as what I paid for 204. Plus reloading is no longer an option anymore so its factory ammo for me. Considered 223 and bulk ammo but surplus stuff has a bad reputation for accuracy (not to mention FMJ bullets) so realistically its a buck a shot for centerfire.

I know some will complain about the cost, they will smugly mention how much they save by melting down wheel weights for bullets and trading their car for a bus pass. A Red Ryder and reusing the steel BBs might be a thrill to some, just not for me.
Maybe I am becoming a 1%er but I am willing to spend a bit of money for a better product.

For me the real concern is whether or not the guns and ammo will get to the shelves before gophers are up, not likely this season if I had to guess. Plus the risk of a new proprietary round, the 17 HMR and 17 HM2 were easy for all manufactures to meet the new round, this one a bit harder.
 
super7 said:
By that logic 17hmr and 17hm2 ought to be alot closer in price...

Supply and demand is also a component.
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Yeah, and what'rya gonna do? Reload the stuff? :)

Once you shell out for a rimfire rifle or handgun, you are pretty much at the mercy of the ammo makers. Choose wisely, and there may still be a use for the firearm, if the ammo dries up.

Or you end up paying $25 for a box of 50, like the 5mm guys have to, if they can find any at all.

Cheers
Trev
 
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lowe160 said:
You GD right if they want us to buy them. What happened to your common sense? There is more to firearms than hunting in case you haven't been out of the house lately.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee, if people don't want them or can't afford them the only person that is going to buy them is you.
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You make it sound like every shooter in Canada is collecting welfare or something. Folks that can afford to shoot 17 HMR will shoot HMR, if you can't afford to shoot it well that is just too bad for you. Was at the range today cowboy, shot some 9mm, shot some target 22 rifle shot some more 22 handgun and I neglected to add up what it all cost. FS
 
I think it will fail, personally.
I bought my .22WMR because I wanted more power than a .22LR...but my shooting distances are short and there are surrounding farms. So I wanted less noise than and power than a .223.
What we appear to have here is a rimfire cartridge that is as loud as the .223, with more worry about how far it carries, is as expensive as .223 (more if you're buying the Norinco bulk) and can't be reloaded.
 
bobtodrick said:
I think it will fail, personally.
I bought my .22WMR because I wanted more power than a .22LR...but my shooting distances are short and there are surrounding farms. So I wanted less noise than and power than a .223.
What we appear to have here is a rimfire cartridge that is as loud as the .223, with more worry about how far it carries, is as expensive as .223 (more if you're buying the Norinco bulk) and can't be reloaded.
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I doubt this new round will be much louder than you new 22 mag, as there are only a few more grains than your 22 mag, no where near as much as a 223 round. The new Hornady 17 only takes 12.2gr of powder to reload. FS
 
Was following this a bit, kinda hoping for a 20 cal rimfire. Can't see this doing anything special but options are always nice to have. Maybe they'll neck 'er up in a couple years.
 
I am a huge rimfire fan BUT I am completely underwhelmed by this new round... when I can load my K-Hornets and .223 centerfires for the same cost and MUCH better performance, I don't see the point... the HMR still fills a niche but a MORE expensive rimfire will not be found in my safe.
 
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