30-30Win 110-125gr loads

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I am having trouble finding data on 110gr and 125gr bullets in the 30-30. :confused:

the bullets I'm interested in is the 110grTTSX and the 125grNosler BT and Sierra PH, perhaps a 130gr TTSX or Sierra :rolleyes:

I am looking for a good 250 yd bambi round. :runaway:

can someone point me to some data? or have some of their own for starters for me?

thanks
 
wcat said:
250yards deer round with a 30-30? Great! f:P:

Here you go:

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
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What?

just because you can't shoot good enough for a 250yd shot doesn't mean someone else can't do it! with my .270, I shoot to 325yd with nary a concern.

if a 250-3000 can do it to 250yds, why would you think a 30-30 can't do it? I doubt it is hard to get 2750-2800 for a 110gr.

isn't that where the 250-3000 puts them?

I just need the data.
 
Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure

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110 GR. SPR FP Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.415" 34.5 2365 27,200 CUP 38.0C 2572 31,900 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP IMR IMR 4320 .308" 2.415" 34.3 2322 31,300 CUP 36.5 2435 36,100 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP IMR IMR 4064 .308" 2.415" 33.3 2342 31,800 CUP 35.5C 2506 36,100 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP Winchester 748 .308" 2.415" 36.8 2595 33,000 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 2.415" 36.0 2351 24,500 CUP 39.0 2526 25,400 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP IMR IMR 4895 .308" 2.415" 33.8 2290 30,500 CUP 36.0C 2459 35,400 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP Hodgdon H335 .308" 2.415" 35.0 2487 28,800 CUP 38.0 2684 34,300 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.415" 34.0 2417 28,600 CUP 37.0 2605 31,100 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP IMR IMR 3031 .308" 2.415" 30.5 2281 22,400 CUP 32.5C 2445 33,700 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP Hodgd Benchmark .308" 2.415" 30.5 2406 36,400 CUP 32.5 2507 37,800 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP IMR IMR 4198 .308" 2.415" 22.5 2168 27,800 CUP 24.0 2302 35,400 CUP
110 GR. SPR FP Hodgdon H4198 .308" 2.415" 23.0 2174 27,100 CUP 25.5 2409 35,900 CUP

don't think your going to get the velocity you were hoping for.........
 
thanks for that yodave

that is the kind of info I'm looking for.

my rifles can handle a little higher pressure, but I'm only looking to stay within the limits.

I've got one on order that can handle 65000lbs, but it may be awhile for it to arrive.

I have read in the past some impressive velocities, but they run the pressure pretty high.
 
wcat said:
250yards deer round with a 30-30? Great! f:P:

Here you go:

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
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Been there, done that, and would do it again!

30-30 is capable as long as the shooter is, both times i have shot deer at aproximatly 250, (once was 232 yds ranged, the other was 267) the deer dropped as fast as they would have with a 30-06.

Just saying if you know your rile and practice it can be done.
 
ah... now that I am home, and can access "Restricted" websites, I am finding more info.

found a listing from Sierra for RL7 up to 2800fps for their 110gr HP and up to 2600fps for their 125gr with IMR's 3031 and 4895.

and with extra barrel length, I should be able to get there.

as an option, I'm looking into AIing my 30-30's also. That should get me another 100-200 fps, and make a dandy 250yd bambi round.

I have yet to hear a bad thing about the 110gr TTSX or the 125gr NosBT or SiePH when loaded in a 30-30Win!

to me, they are a good match

for Moose, I'd go 165gr Sierra, as I don't think a 30-30 can push them fast enough to cause them to come apart.
 
I was going to suggest ackley......but you've already done your research.......

If you can get the speed your looking for that should be a pretty flat shooting combination.....
 
Try 39 grs H335 with a 130 gr Spitzer loaded single shot. Very accurate and deadly out to 200 yds on varmints.
My Lyman #47 Manual lists 39 grs as MAX with a 150 gr bullet so you could probably go higher than that with a 130 gr bullet. I didn't just because the 39 gr load was so accurate in my M94 AE XTR.
 
wcat said:
250yards deer round with a 30-30? Great! f:P:

Here you go:

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp
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This is possible with a good rifle & practice.
My example of a clean single shot harvest at 260 yards using Winchester 150 grain Silvertip on 22nd November 2005:
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One of the clubs we used to shoot "Rifleman's Rodeo" at had a "frontier" class to shoot in.
The chambering of choice was the 30-30, and it had to be a lever action, so 94 Winchesters
and 336 Marlins featured heavily.

The targets were at 125, 140, 200, 250 and 300 yards.
I shot a 336a Marlin with aperture sights.

Because we single loaded, I used the 110 grain Hornady Spire point, driven by 34 grains of IMR 3031
The 10 ring on the 300 yard goat was about 3½" in diameter, and I dinged that ten ring often enough
to feel confident with the old lever action, even at that range.

Many others were able to do the same.

Do not underestimate the old 30-30, it is more capable than it is given credit for.

Regards, Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
Because we single loaded, I used the 110 grain Hornady Spire point, driven by 34 grains of IMR 3031
The 10 ring on the 300 yard goat was about 3½" in diameter, and I dinged that ten ring often enough
to feel confident with the old lever action, even at that range.

Regards, Eagleye.
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would you hunt meat deer with that load?

what MV would you expect?

I'll be using a 26" barrel.
 
nanuk said:
would you hunt meat deer with that load?

what MV would you expect?

I'll be using a 26" barrel.
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IIRC, the velocity of that load was just over 2600 in a 24" barrel.
I would have shot a deer, no problem.
But I never hunted it, so have no practical experience.
Eagleye.
 
The 30/30 is a great deer round but, at 250 yards it's running a little low on HP for my liking. It down to about 550 to 600fpe at that range. Sure it will kill a deer....but it might not do it quick. Most likely won't exit,making for a poor blood trail. Just my 2cents.

Russ...
 
For anyone who's really interested in the .30-30 and the M94 in particular - Sam Fadala's book "Winchester's .30-30, Model 94" is a must read. He covers the history of the rifle and cartridge, tuning for accuracy, reloading and hunting etc. He also discusses the pro's of having the rifle rechambered for the Ackley Improved version (he has a 24" barreled Ackley improved custom M94).

He doesn't claim any great improvement in velocity for the AI version - just better case life. Mr. Fadala says he uses the same loads in his AI as he did in his "regular" .30-30.

He gives some good load and ballistic information:

125 gr bullet with 38 grs H335 from a 26" barrel = 2709 fps
130 gr bullet with 37 grs H335 from a 26" barrel = 2683 fps (this is a light load as the Lyman #47 lists a MAx of 39 grs with a 150 gr)
150 gr bullet with 38 grs H335 from a 26" barrel = 2636 fps

A 130 gr spitzer at @2680 fps still produces 1273 foot pounds of energy at 200 yds. 988 f-p at 300 yds
 
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