Renting out your rifle question

Juicebox4321

Juicebox4321

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So ya, I am always bringing my friends out shooting with me, and word has spread around these parts of my arsenal. I don't think a day goes by that a friend of a friend of a friend would like go go out shooting with me. I usually make my buddies buy the ammo and I supply the guns.. I wonder if I did start taking out strangers with me and asking for a 200$ donation for my time lol. I've seen this type of thing go on down in Nevada where you can go out in the desert with some hillbillies and shoot a Ak with a drum mag. Anyway I'm really just looking for some input here, liability issues, safety would be a issue, i grew up around guns and am very safe, guess that would be like rolling the dice with some random feller..., would like to make this happen to fund some other purchases I have in mind. I know some people are snobby about letting other people touch their guns but I really am not that way. Appreciate any info gun nutz:)

Tavor Tar-21
B-ACR
H&k USC
Norc M4
Norc m14
Kriss Super V
RA XCR-L
Benelli mr1
CZ 858
Mk22
Few Hunting rifles
And a Few Mosbergs
 
Make sure you're within arms reach of them when they're shooting and you should be good to go.

Personally: I've brought a lot of people out shooting for their first time, good friends of mine who think its cool to try.

This has largely cost me money. A hour and a half drive in the jeep and ~150 rounds of .223 has been repaid in the past with a "thanks man" and $20.

Renting like your describing is a little different. Personally I only take out people I know pretty well. But if your inclined to do it: at least make sure your costs are covered.
 
Haha yeah I've had the "thanks man" lots too, but the smiles on your friend face is payment enough eh lol. Within arms reach is def a smart way to do things, maybe even having a good friend come out with me would be ideal. Well this seems all fine and dandy then, thanks brotha
 
For the most part people I've taken are happy to offer to pay for ammo (especially if you drop hints about how much it costs) and many will offer to buy me lunch after the shoot. It already costs them $25 for a day card at my range. I feel good about being an ambassador for the sport. Sometimes in lieu of birthday presents I will give good friends a 'ticket' to come shoot for me with no ammo costs.

I wouldn't be comfortable with outright strangers. I feel I'm even taking a chance when a friend wants to invite one of their friends. Part of the liability is countered by the day-insurance but you know anyone can try to sue anyone else. I want to make very sure that my a-hole filter is on before saying yes to anyone. I've taken many dozens of newbs to the range and only once have I regretted it (not a safety issue, more of an attitude issue). If I were to contemplate actually making money at it then it might stop being fun for me and it might stop being a choice for me to say no or yes.
 
I think I read it on the internet......


Probably law

;)

Spreading the word to all that you have a well stocked vault, is never a good idea.
Also, spreading the word to that shooters 300 facebook friends, and their 12000 facebook friends is a really, really crap idea.

Modern age my friend, people don't just do things for fun, they do it to show all their friends how much fun they had, on the internet. Sort of like here, but with more thugs, and gun control activists.
 
If you start charging money for anything, you are then opening yourself to liability. You're not insured for this I assume. I mean, it probably wouldn't but imagine something going wrong and someone's lefty relative suing you because you have no credentials suggesting your a competent instructor. Frankly if something went wrong they'd come after you even if you had credentials. It's definitely risky.

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Spreading the word to all that you have a well stocked vault, is never a good idea.
Also, spreading the word to that shooters 300 facebook friends, and their 12000 facebook friends is a really, really crap idea.
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I was also considering this, I don't want to insult anyone, but I generally think letting the entire world and their dog know not only that you are a firearms owner, but giving them a shopping list of what you own, is a completely stupid idea. How can you trust those you don't know, and yet these same people you don't know, already know about your entire collection. Just foolish. Asking to get ripped off IMO

I would also be worried about round count, depending on which ones you are loaning out. I wouldn't think you'd want someone doing a carbine course with you Tavor and running 500 rounds through it in a weekend.
 
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What if one of your guns blows up injuring the person because he fired after a squib?
Would you try to charge him for the gun or would he sue you for unsafe equipment?
Taking a hobby and trying to make a business with it is a surefire way to make a chore out of something that was fun.
 
Hmm those are some very valid points, it wasn't my intention of starting and business getting insurance and so forth. Just figured I could do it like them girls on the corner lol pay for my time and companionship, and oh look I have some guns in the back wanna try em? I like the point about facebook, myself I have a lot of bad apples for friends on there, I have the highest privacy settings, but now i'm paranoid thanks haha guess I'll pull those pics down:( the girls holding the guns were so ###y tho wah wah.. Sooooo I think it would be in my best interest to just let my friends have fun, no need to make chores eh, but mainly none wants to get sued!! :runaway: thanks for talking sense into me lol :runaway: and for buddy that knows all the guns in my arsenal lol I'd like to see somebody get thro my grade 1 beadbolts, then my 120$/month security system... god that pisses me off haha and then once inside they have five minutes to get into my vault which could be anywhere in the house... And if they do find it... push the wrong combination.... blam, claymore all over their face haha kidding on that last part. But ya I'm not to worried about theft, I sleep sound at night cuddled up to defender:) anyway again thanks for info
 
I bring buddies out occasionally. I charge them for the ammo, and the "Cover Charge" which is the range guest fee that covers any insurance matters.

If they are someone you trust go for it. Can't say I'd bring out just anyone tho'.

I reload all the ammo I shoot, so they pay less then factory, but I do charge a subtle markup, usually just rounding up the cost. $33 become $35.

As a rule, I only bring them out on days I am going to the range to shoot anyway, and I only offer the guns I planned to shoot that day.
I've done it before, where I got a bunch of buddies together and brought a bunch of guns out, but it was just too much work.
I'd spend a week reloading before, and a week cleaning after.
 
Juicebox4321 said:
lol I'd like to see somebody get thro my grade 1 beadbolts, then my 120$/month security system... god that pisses me off haha and then once inside they have five minutes to get into my vault which could be anywhere in the house... And if they do find it... push the wrong combination.... blam, claymore all over their face haha kidding on that last part. But ya I'm not to worried about theft, I sleep sound at night cuddled up to defender:) anyway again thanks for info
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No offense, but it sounds like you'll have an answer for every scenario possible. This doesn't make it any smarter to advertise your firearm collection to anyone you don't know and trust. It's just foolish. If anything it tells the bad guys they better bring guns. If you disagree and feel that some dead bolts, and a security system gives you a free pass to do something stupid, then your entitled to your opinion ;)
 
If you start "renting" your guns you are getting into the realms of a business and would require a firearms business license and all the joys that come with it.


NEVER take a stranger shooting.
 
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